Stupid power outage :mad: The power was off from 4pm til 11pm, I missed everything last night. :mad:
So after I finish my download I’ll come back to join this discussion
I guess Clarence Weidman really took his job as the Kane family security guy seriously. I wonder if Duncan had a standing order with him: “If Aaron Echolls is found not guilty, cap him ASAP.”
Whatever Kendall had in that briefcase had better be good, because otherwise I can’t see Keith ditching Veronica at the airport like that.
The more I think about it, I think Veronica had a much worse graduation day than Buffy, and that’s really saying something. And in both cases, their respective Mayors got blown up. 
They blowed up REAL good!
Haven’t we seen him pretty much hunting people down to the point of execution a couple of times already? He’s been up to his eyelashes in murder, blackmail, conspiracy and who knows what else so capping a murderer didn’t strike me as that big a stretch.
Except that I didn’t recognize him, so I was wondering until he talked to Duncan who the hell he was.
I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one. I was amazed during the pilot that they went there from the start with the character and I was disappointed with the resolution as well. But I felt really creepy being disappointed that someone wasn’t raped, even if she is fictional.
I don’t think I can say this as eloquently as y’all …But I really liked this episode!
I didn’t see Beaver as being the bad guy at all this season or for Veronica’ rape last season.
I dont know if that needs a box, but I realize I didnt say anything about sopilers in my thread title, opps :smack:
Props to those of you who fingered Cassidy–his name is not Beaver!–as the villain. I still think it’s a stretch for him to be on the same little league team with a couple o’ Mexican kids from the wrong side of town, but misdirection is the name of the game, I guess.
I have to admit, I was actually a little disappointed in this episode. Not that it was bad, just didn’t live up to my expectations. I expect more from Veronica Mars than to have a standard “the villain explains himself” scene at the end. (In fact, counting Aaron and Roni in the elevator, you could almost say there were two of those scenes.) And I still think Roni and Logan are not going to work out, no matter how “epic” they think they are. The girl’s too smart not to see that, so it feels forced to me. But again, emotional times.
I think it was too good an ending for Aaron. He just finished fucking a hot chick, he’s enjoying a stogie and smugging it up watching himself on the tube. Hell, he didn’t even see it coming. I would have preferred he went out like a little punk ass bitch, not having the time of his soon-to-be-extinguished life.
I’m wondering if Wallace proposed to Jackie right there in the terminal. He is rather impulsive, and has a huge “good guy” streak. Maybe he asked her to marry him and bring the kid back with them to Neptune. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
Oh, yeah, Terrence Cook is a dick. I’m actually a little more sympathetic to Jackie, given how much she’s apparently suffered due to his neglect. He deserves to spend the rest of his life as Big Chief Scumbag’s houseboy.
Loose threads dept:
What exactly did happen to Mac? It makes no sense to me that Beav…uh, Cassidy took everything from the room before heading up to the roof. He wouldn’t have had the time. And did Mac know he took the big Nestea plunge? How? Did she see him float past the window? I have a feeling that something happened to her in that room which was NOT related to Cassidy. Presumably, we’ll start to find out in four months.
What’s in the briefcase? And did Kendall really come out a big winner here, to the tune of $8 mil? One has to assume that, for Keith not to show up at the airport, it had to involve something that he believed would benefit him and Roni in a big way.
The Weevil incident seemed extremely lame. Why the hell did no member of the faculty step over to at least find out what was going on. And it makes little sense that he had to be arrested before participating in the graduation. Why not just wait for him to step off the stage? (An aside: didn’t Weevil say he wanted his grandmother to “see” him walk across the stage? It looked to me like that old gal wasn’t seeing much of anything.)
Finally, just curious: Were Jackie and Wallace really at JFK? I’ve never been there, so I don’t know for sure. (It did look like Veronica really was at San Diego Int’l (Lindbergh Field). I recognized the gate signs.) I’m kind of amazed that the show would spring for a location shot at the real JFK airport, if it was so. Talk about going all out for us!
The more I think about it, the more I agree with you, so I’m going to contradict my earlier post and say I think the Keith-on-a-Plane subplot was handled well. The real problem is that I was in total denial – the minute the plane exploded I said (out loud), “No way! They’re not gonna kill Keith Mars!”
Here’s a good review from salon.com com that sums up the episode very well (spoiler-rama): http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/review/2006/05/10/veronica_mars/
I really hope the massive critical acclaim this show is receiving at least registers in the minds of the CW execs who will decide Veronica’s ultimate fate. I’m preparing for the worst, but cancellation would still be a major bummer.
So Veronica is Jesus and Logan is the Virgin Mary? Yes… I’m starting to see the parallels.
I’ve not seen it yet (won’t be able to until Sunday) but I’m guessing most, if not all, of the faculty view Weevil and the PCHers as bad seeds who get what’s coming to them
Dude, if people hadn’t been fingering Cassidy then we wouldn’t have had this mess to begin with!
Maybe the kids were the offspring of live-in help for the rich families.
They were toward the middle of the ep. I was surprised that the reveal came as early as it did, actually.
All she said was something like “he took my clothes, he took everything, why would he do that?” Which, if she saw him take the clothes, would certainly freak her out. If he did something else like stick the gun in her face or start talking freaky, I can see her responding to that by going all fetal like she did. She didn’t know IMHO that he’d jumped and we didn’t need to see her told. She’ll find out soon enough.
It’s Marcellus Wallace’s soul, I already told you.
Law enforcement answer is that he’d have a shot at making a break for it if they let him walk. The Lamb-is-a-dick answer is that Lamb is a dick.
At first I thought Cassidy raped her – the way she was huddled in the corner and the manner in which she said “he took everything” suggested to me that he took more than just her clothes. But then I realized the timeframe wasn’t right: If Beaver was in a hurry to deal with Veronica – the woman who could potentially destroy him, he would not have wasted time raping Mac.
So what happened: he saw the message from Veronica and realized he had to kill her posthaste. But Mac was in the shower, so the quickest way to deal with her was to steal all her clothes and posessions so she wouldn’t be able to leave the room. Then he’d be able to deal with her later.
When Mac comes out of the shower, she sees an empty room and missing clothes and assumes the worse – i.e. Cassidy dumped her again and played some kind of cruel prank in the process. She’s understandably confused and heartbroken, which is why we find her so distraught. Cassidy took everything, meaning her clothes and her heart.
We’ve seen him tracking people down and threatening them with weapons, etc, but I don’t think we’ve ever seen him kill or even injure anyone…he usually just influenced them to “go away.”
I know he played a part in the Lilly murder cover-up, but again, it seemed to me that it was more shady dealings but not so much murder himself. I think he beleived as well as the Kanes that it was Logan who killed Lilly in a psychotic fit, and not Aaron Echolls. The whole deal with Abel Koontz, which he helped arrange, was voluntary, too…
I dunno, I just don’t buy it. He seems more of an intimidator, and not so much a murderer for me. But then, perhaps he has some loyalty to the Kane family and wanted to make sure that Lilly’s killer was brought to ultimate justice.
Doh, I mean CW thougth it was Duncan who killed Lilly, not Logan.
Oh and to follow up with this:
She wouldn’t have had much beyond her clothes and her cell phone, so he would only need a few seconds to gather them up.
Please note, however, that the “explaining what really happened scene” is a staple of hard-boiled detective fiction. As long as it is done artfully, which I think it always is in Veronica Mars.
I thought it made perfect sense. He doesn’t want Mac to follow him or wander out and get caught up in the confrontation, so while she’s in the shower he grabs a pillowcase and packs up her clothes, the towels, the sheets and the room’s phone and heads for the door. He can dump them in a stairwell on the way to the roof, and this way, Mac is trapped until she’s willing to go down to the lobby naked (and very likely be seen by other members of the graduating class). The side effect is, when Mac comes out of the shower, she thinks Cassidy did all this to humiliate her. He’s been cruel to her before when she discovered his sexual problems - was he just playing at getting back together with her as part of the joke? That’d pretty much destroy her confidence and reduce her to tears without her ever having to know what was happening on the roof.
Drat. Curse my slow typing! What I mean to say is I agree with Phantom Dennis about the Mac in the hotel room thing.
Murder probably isn’t part of CW’s usual bag of tricks, but I think for Lilly’s killer he’d make a special exception.
Also, I liked Duncan actually calling him “CW”, a shout-out to the network which hopefully will be the show’s new home in the fall. 
Beav – I mean Cassidy didn’t explain himself on the roof, not much anyway, so the cliche was mostly avoided. The solution to the mystery was given in flashbacks, narrated by Veronica.
Anyway, this is one cliche I can overlook in a mystery, especially a complicated one. There are other ways to reveal the solution, but none of them are as dramatic.
I’ve always suspected CW is the real murderer of Abel Koontz’s daughter, not her boyfriend. She was extorting Kane Software for millions, so he had more of a motive than anyone. Definitely a shady character.
Anybody notice that his initials are “CW” and his final words to Duncan are: “It’s a done deal.” Could this be a subte hint from Rob Thomas the the CW has picked up Veronica for another season? (Please say it’s true! Please say it’s true!)
Yes, someone did notice. Cool!
I’m a wee bit fuzzy on this part: why would Beaver blow up the bus to keep the two other molested kiddos from ratting out Woody? Was he biding his time until the incorporation failed (thus enriching his own gold horde)? If so, wouldn’t a scandal-embroiled mayor (especially based on allegations of child molestation) be a giant vote in the box against incorporation?
Well, incorporation failed and his properties were still worth $8 million, so I guess that part of the plan worked out fine. Maybe he planned to kill Woody later.
The only real reason to kill the other two kids was to prevent them from revealing the molestation at all. Cassidy didn’t want anyone to know what had happened to him. I’m sure with a fine family like his, he could expect nothing but love and support and surely not a waste-of-skin older brother who would tease him about it forever.