The camaraderie/rivalry between Veronica and the Principal was a nice little touch. I’m going to miss his character.
It looks like the only thing Beaver does in this episode is reveal that Logan was lying about being in Tijuana at the time of Lilly’s murder, which leads Veronica to suspect Logan until she finds the tapes.
yes - but what could she possibly want him to do for her that would cause him to not run to the airport?
And excuse me, but when he couldn’t get her on her cell phone, he should have called the airline and had Veronica paged
So, is Wallace going to leave Jackie to her son and return to Neptune and Hearst? Or will he find a way to bring her and her son back with him?
How did Jackie know Wallace was chasing after him? Was that the “personal” stuff in the note she left for him?
How did Lamb know Keith was intending to come back on Woody’s plane? Lamb wasn’t there, too, was he? Was in the plane? Is he now gone, clearing the way for an interim election which Keith actually wins? Is Logan going to Hearst also?
Veronica called jackie in New York and told her that Wallace was going to Paris with a four hour layover in NYC.
Presumably off-camera Keith called Lamb to tell him that a fugitive was on his way back to Neptune so that Lamb could meet Woody. It’s certainly understandable that Lamb wouldn’t want Keith at the airport, sharing in the glory of Woody’s arrest.
But how did she know where to reach Jackie? For all she knew, Jackie was already in Paris.
That’s not like Rob Thomas to leave so much to be assumed
I don’t think those are huge logic leaps. It’s mostly a matter if not spoon feeding every single boring, figure-outable detail to people. Keith is a bounty hunter, which means he finds figituves and personally returns them to police custody. They used to actually show this more, especially in the first season, but it’s well established.
Veronica had known for awhile that Jackie wasn’t going to Paris, and wasn’t the daughter of a model. She said this in her phone conversation with Jackie. Veronica is able to investigate people and she looked into Jackie’s background when she realized certain things about her didn’t add up (great waitressing skills with “no experience”, a 3.1 GPA that wouldn’t get her into the Sorbonne).
What I didn’t understand is how she would have found the specific place in Brooklyn where Jackie was living.
She didn’t find the specific place where she was living (that we know of). She called her at the diner where she and her mother work.
It would be pretty easy for Veronica to search Jackie’s previous records (birth certificate and social security, for instance), and from there track down the current address of her mother. Also, since Jackie has a work history, there would be employment and tax records and all that stuff and that would lead to info on their place of employment. Veronica would also turn up the info on Jackie’s son, as he would have a birth certificate and social security number. If you have access to the databases like Veronica does, it’s really easy.
I once worked for a collections agency (purely clerical, not harrassing people by phone) and had access to a lot of that information. For fun, I started looking up people I’d known a long time ago and I found probably 95% of them within a few minutes of searching. Hell, I managed to find out that a girl with wealthy parents who’d picked on me in elementary school was now living in an East Texas trailer park.
BUMP! I figured I’d post this news here.
Veronica Mars has been renewed for Season 3. Linky.
TV Guide’s Michael Ausiello says this:
Excellent news, but buy those DVDs and get your friends to watch!
I think what hurt it this year was its move to Tuesdays - opposite Scrubs and American Idol
Cool. I let my subscription to this place lapse for a few weeks, so I missed the discussion of this episode and the penultimate one, but I’m glad to see a third season.
Of course, I think this is the last chance. If the ratings don’t improve on the CW (and possibly airing after Gilmore Girls or another decent lead-in), season 3 may not even finish, much less there being a season after that.
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BUMP! I figured I’d post this news here.
Veronica Mars has been renewed for Season 3. Linky.QUOTE]
Woo Hoo.
I liked it way better on Wed. It was much easier to watch on that night, Not saying I wont follow it no matter what day it moves to
Wednesday wasn’t a much better night as far as I was concerned. It was a choice between VM and Lost. At least UPN had the good sense to repeat VM on Sunday nights, otherwise I would’ve been in a bad way trying to decide between the two. And really, for me, it wqould’ve been a choice between VM and Lost, Alias and Invasion since I’m not usually home on Wednesdays.
Awesome. So it sounds like we’ll get 13 episodes at the very least. How this show manages to squeak by every season I cannot comprehend! 
I’m guessing positive reviews had someting to do with it – the CW’s prospective lineup looks pretty trashy, so maybe they’re looking to polish their image with at least one critical darling. Plus Veronica is the definition of a low budget show, so cost is probably not a huge deciding factor. It’s a smart gamble, I think. VM has the potential to be extremely popular, once it finds its audience.
It’s because I never let anyone know I like it. My viewership is the Kiss of Death. Shhh!
I suppose the odds are strong it will not improve in the ratings and get cancelled after about half a season, but I’ll take whatever I can get.
Also, I re-watched the last episode last night, and I just want to add that the look on Veronica’s face when Dick smacked her on the ass was priceless.
That is all.
I like the first season a lot - in fact I’d say it was one of the best seasons of TV ever. This season was disappointing though, and Beaver as the Big Bad actually pissed me off. Not that I have any emotional attachment to him, but none of it adds up for me. The whole bus crash plotline was too sensationalistic from beginning to end - Neptune High students die! Meg’s pregnant but in a coma! Meg dies! Duncan runs off with baby! Bleah! - and it didn’t make sense that Beaver would kill a busful of kids just to get two of them. It’s too big and flashy, attracting too much attention, and probably not the most reliable method. It happened to kill the two main targets, but there’s some chance they might have survived. When Veronica saw the picture of Beaver on the little league team, it seemed much too big a leap for her to instantly make him the prime suspect. When we see the big reveal sequence, the only reason it really implicates Beaver is that he’s already pointing a gun at her, so Veronica’s chain of thought therefore happened to be correct. There’s very little reason to suspect Beaver when those events first happened. It may be realistic, but it makes for very poor drama. And when Beaver blew up the plane, I was so thrown out of the story that I didn’t really give a crap, as much as I like Keith. Besides, I figured they’d contrived a reason for him to be alive anyway.
I do agree, to a certain extent, that Beaver’s act seems over the top. Taking out a whole bus just to get two kids is not particularly efficient or sensible. Maybe we’re just supposed to see Beav as seriously unhinged, unable to recognize the ridiculousness of the crime. But then again, he was rational enough to bet against incorporation–knowing what he knew about Woody, of course–and make a mint in the process. There are leaps to be made, but not big enough to make the whole thing bad television, in my opinion.
Man, I rewatched “A Trip to the Dentist” last night, and watching that in light of the S2 finale is a trip. When Beaver was talking to Veronica about Shelly’s party I kept yelling “LIAR!”
I think what she knows when she sees that Beaver was on the team, is not that he blew it up (though obviously she suspects him), but rather that he raped her.
She had chlamydia, but doesn’t know how she got it. She and Duncan apparently used condoms (not that they’re foolproof, but they cut down on the risk of transmission), and that’s the only guy (as far as she knows) that she’s been with. And as far as she can figure out, Duncan was only with Meg, who was also a virign when they slept together. So something doesn’t add up there. She knows someone must be lying or something that she thinks she knows just isn’t so, but she doesn’t know what. So then she hears that Woody was treated for the same disease, which gives her a little shock, but still, she has no reason to think that’s anything other than coincidence.
Then she sees that Beaver was on the team. Woody had chlamydia. Woody abused two boys on the team that she knows of, and could have abused Beaver, thus passing along the disease to him. And she was alone with Beaver, drugged and unconcious, at the party two years ago. She had previously believed his denials that anything happened, but now she has to reconsider that. This is the most plausable scenerio she’s been able to figure out for how she got chlamydia. It’s not 100% absolute proof, sure, but Veronica has been known to come up with a plausible theory before and treat it as the proven truth (like in last year’s finale when she thought Logan killed Lilly based upon him lying about his alibi).
So, next scene we see her in the bathroom, looking freaked. Because now she figures she was raped after all, and if Beaver could do that to her and keep that secret for so long while being friendly to her and pretending nothing happened, what else is he capable of? We don’t know how long she was in there, but it could have been several minutes. She’s probably running through bunches of scenerios in her mind, trying to figure out what happened. She comes out of the fast food place and calls Mac, leaving a message that Beaver is dangerious, because, even if she’s not completely sure at this point that he’s the killer, I think she’s convinced that Beaver did rape her, and that certainly makes him dangerious. Then she starts digging into Beaver’s past by calling his friend Hart (on that point, I’m not sure quite sure what made her think of him) and assembling a more complete picture of what happened.
It, more or less, works for me. YMMV. I do think it suffers a bit the first time someone sees the episode though. When I saw it, I too thought “wait, how did she leap from ‘Beaver was on the team’ to ‘Beaver is the killer’?”. It seemed like too large a leap absent other clues. But there was another clue, which was that Beaver raped her, which we didn’t know yet (well, it was possible to figure out since we knew as much as Veronica, but it didn’t even occur to me at that point). So, in that light, it works much better for me.