Veronica Mars 5/9/06

I just remembered something – just before Beaver detonates the bomb on the plane he says something like: “Woody is no longer useful to me.”

This suggests to me that Beaver had a good reason to keep Woody alive, at least until the finale.

Assuming the existence of a third season, I wonder what the new main mystery will be? It feels like the writers can’t possibly top themselves after the bus crash (involving a psychotic mass-murderer and a pedophile, no less). Then again, I had similar worries about Season 2, which turned out better than season 1 in my opinion.

My guess is that it’s going to be a more personal mystery this time around – perhaps another friend or loved-one will be killed (just not Keith, Mac, Wallace or Logan, dammit!)

I’ve heard it suggested that the fraternity rapist at Hearst could make a good main mystery, but I’d be a little disappointed if it was something that “mundane” (compared to Lilly and the bus crash anyway). I do like the idea of a perpetrator at large who preys on victims throughout the season and poses a constant threat to Veronica – maybe a serial killer can start haunting Veronica’s dorm.

Bit.torrent is your friend! That’s how I watch it.

Also, did anyone else think, when Veronica was trying to call Keith that cell phone reception on planes is you know, not good, so of course she couldn’t reach him. But he drove. So then that doesn’t make sense.

But if he’s driving back from a hunting lodge in a remote area, he could easily just be between towers and not get any reception. I don’t know about SoCal, but there are plenty of “black holes” around here where cell phones just don’t work.

According to Rob Thomas, the plan for next year (assuming there is one) is to have three mysteries in shorter arcs, like 8 episodes, then 7 episodes, then another 7. The plan is to air those arcs uninterrupted by breaks or reruns, so it’s easier for new viewers to jump on. That episode breakdown is approximate; they’d see how long it took to tell certain stories, find out what CW’s schedule is, and fit it into the given windows.

Yeah, I heard this, and I think it sucks. The season long arcs are what sold me on the show in the first place. I guess I should be happy if the show comes back at all, but I’d hate to see it neutered like that. Also, from what I understand, the shorter arcs are designed to allow the CW to pull the plug in mid-season if the raitings don’t measure up. So even if we get a season three, it might not last long.

[pollyanna mode]
Okay, maybe the three-arc format will work better than it sounds. At least they’re not planning on trashing the multi-episode arcs and turning it into a pure mystery-of-the week show.

And hopefully a respectable number of potential viewers will finally get curious about “that Veronica Mars show that sounds kinda interesting” and put season 1 and 2 on their Netflix queues this summer. If enough people discover the show in the next few months, the season three premiere just might be a surprise hit.
[/pollyanna mode]

Well, to be fair, the show was always a combination of MOTW and season-long arcs. We often got episodes which were almost 100% an insular mystery and we’d get maybe one piece of information for the seasonal mystery. So I can see the shorter arcs working.

We won’t officially know if Veronica’s coming back until the CW announces its fall lineup on May 19th. The show’s producers seem optimistic, thankfully. Veronica may be a ratings dud, but apparently the CW’s been having trouble finding decent dramas for their opening season, so they’re not in a position to be particularly choosey at this point.

Okay, I clearly don’t pay enough attention. Who was Aaron’s ex? Was it Lily’s mom or something?

As for the briefcase, I didn’t think it was anything other than a whole big pile of cash. I get the “Keith wouldn’t ditch her for money” thing, but I think he’s just practical enough to do so if it’s change-your-life kind of money. And Kendall didn’t seem to be in anyway cagey about things. She was just tossing around her new-found solvency.

thwartme

I got the impression that in the dream, Lilly and Aaron never had an affair at all, and she was talking about some college guy whose (presumably female) ex she’d also slept with.

If it was a briefcase full of cash, then Keith might have left Veronica hanging because getting a cut of that action would solve the problem of paying for Roni’s upcoming matriculation. We didn’t find out if she won the Kane scholarship or not. Her dreams of Stanford are still hanging in the air–unless Keith suddenly comes up with a big wad of cash that makes the scholarship moot.

If it was a briefcase full of blues, then expect Keith to dress exclusively in a black suit with a black hat and Ray-Bans all next season.

I’m pretty sure Veronica’s hope for the Kane scholarship ended when she ditched her history final to hear the trial verdict. And Rob Thomas said of course Veronica’s going to Hearst next year; he wants to keep Keith on the show and can’t think of a good reason for him to move to Palo Alto with Veronica, not to mention all the other supporting characters. They’ve already established the college and a few other characters who will attend it.

That doesn’t mean it wasn’t a big briefcase full of cash, but Stanford isn’t in Veronica’s future. Considering how much Episode 2.1 covered of the summer’s events, Episode 3.1 could be the saga of how Keith tried to get the money for Stanford, and ultimately failed.

She was wearing a big honkin’ gold medal at graduation, which I thought implied she was valedictorian even though it was never stated.

This is a plot point that actually I’ve found rather irritating. It’s not like the Kane Scholarship is the only source of financial aid in the country. I know student loans are kind of ridiculous but they’re an option. Hell, Duncan would probably front her enough money out of his personal stash to cover tuition if it came to it.

That would be so hot. I totally have a crush on Keith, except I also sort of wish he was my dad, so it’s confusing.

It would be a, shall we say, interesting turn for the show. Plus, special guest appearances by Dan Ackroyd. Of course, I was making a joke–perhaps you’re taking it a little too seriously?

I suspect you’re right, cbawlmer. Walking out on that test probably did not help the GPA. I had forgotten about that. Guess I can only keep the latest episode in mind. No wonder I couldn’t solve the mystery.

Well, here’s one problem with Veronica’s scholarship prospects - her dad did get 50K from the Kanes last year. Even though Lianne stole it, I don’t get the impression that Keith acutally sicced the cops on her, he just cashed in with the book to make up for it.

But, having gotten that, plus the book money, within the past year would torpedo Veronica’s FAFSA, not to mention any other 1040-based financial aid.

As Otto noted, there’s still the possibility of student loans. Even at this stage of dwindling committments to higher education, she probably wouldn’t get turned down for a loan.

But yeah, from a storyline standpoint, it makes much more sense for Veronica to just go to Hearst and stay within the Neptune orbit. (Pun!)

It’s true that expensive universities offer tons of financial aid, so she ought to be able to take advantage of that. Hey, maybe she can transfer to Stanford after a year or two at Hearst. :wink:

I think I’ve mentioned this in an earlier thread, but I’m really glad that the prinicpal character got developed. I mean, as a pretty standard-issue authority figure foil, he was functional to the plots that used him. They could easily have just kept him as a guy whose main personality trait was an obsession with busting Veronica – one story line after another about him trying to catch her stealing pic-a-nic baskets. But their opposition became, it seems to me, friendly and I’m glad they gave a nod to that fact in the graduation scene. In “Betty and Veronica” we already see Van Clemmons come to realize that Veronica may be useful. Later in “My Mother the Fiend” he manipulates her into solving a mystery that gets his superior fired.

In retrospect, the signs were there, but I must say I didn’t realize how complex his rivalry with Veronica was until I saw “Ain’t no Magic Mountain High Enough” in which I just didn’t think he belived for a second that Veronica Mars was going to go down for robbing the cash box. He also knew that whoever really did it made a big mistake trying to hang it on Veronica Mars. I mean, he maintained his ballbuster stance at all times, but it seemed to me he was thinking, “Aw, shit. Somebody fucked with the wrong bitch. This is gonna be good.” He confirmed it at the end of that episode and really drove it in at the graduation. They had a relationship that was subtle, complicated, but ultimately very touching. He respected her, and he was proud of her.

I mean, am I the only one who got this vibe?

Nope. I really appreciated how they turned him into somebody interesting. The stick up his ass principal with an overdeveloped sense of authority is too cliche to belong on a show like this, so it was good that he wasn’t there.

The last episode of the previous series was called ‘Leave it to Beaver’ For the life of me I can’t remember any significant event Beaver was involved in. (The rape was ‘solved’ in the previous episode iirc) Could somebody remind me what role Beaver played in the episode?

Not at all. Go back to “Betty and Veronica” from S1 when he hires her to find the missing school mascot.