Vice Presidential Debate Thread

So…you think Biden did win? So liberals aren’t wrong to think that?

So, Biden won.

Heheh.

It’s nice being on the other side on this one.

I stole it, too.

Soledad O’Brien: Send all the hostile tweets you want, our focus group–and I agree w them–think it was a draw. Each guy did what he had to do for his team

http://politicslive.cnn.com/Event/vice_presidential_debate

And oh, BTW:

Verdict. A TIE says #Focusgroup. 32% for @JoeBiden . 32% for @RepPaulRyan. 35% no winner. #cnndebates

Looks like 32 Joe, 32 Paul, 35 draw.

I see no reason it should differ by more than a few points that the CBS flash poll (Biden 51%, Ryan 31%, Dunno 18%).

All this will do is make people ask why isn’t Biden at the top of the ticket.

Not a loss for the Dems, but not really a win, either.

A win would be - would have been - the guy in charge showing up ready to rumble. There really isn’t anything that can compensate for that failure, or excuse it.

CBS flash poll: Biden 50%, Ryan 31%, draw 19%.

ETA: ninja’d by Steve MB.

MSNBC snap poll of undecided voters: Biden 50%, Ryan 31%, draw 19%.

That’s the focus group, not the scientific poll (they haven’t published that yet).

I give Biden the win - I disagree with most everything he believes, but he projected passion and leadership, which is what I believe is sorely lacking in American government. Obama and Ryan appear to make all of their moves based on the latest polling and it shows.

However, Martha Radditz was quite clearly allowing Biden to interrupt to a ridiculous extent (an old debate tacit to take the force out of an opponent’s reply) and made a habit of cutting Ryan off on rebuttal, which she did not do with Biden. She also challenged Ryan on his answers, without challenging Biden really at all. I won’t go so far as to say she was biased, but it was unbalanced moderation, and it will give the Ryan supports a leg to stand on.

Is anyone who bitched about Romney interrupting going to go on record condemning the same in Biden tonight?

Hate to break it to you Mr. Blinded by Ideology, but early numbers are;

CBS: 50% Biden, 31% Ryan, 19% draw
CNN: 64% Biden, 36% Ryan

StarTribune (local) 56/36/8

CBS says 50-31-19. So, you know, at least you were close on Ryan’s percentage.

Fox Snap Poll: Ryan 137% Biden -Eight Million Billion percent

Sorry, that’s what I was reporting. Wasn’t that the CNN flash poll we were talking about? Or is that something different?

Better phrasing:
The Catholic church is run by sexist, pedophilic old men . . .

Ryan is a Teahadist.

Well, if the blogs I looked at are any indication, the Vice President did do one very important thing tonight: lifted the spirits of the President’s base and got them enthusiastic again.

Possibly a second, if the contrasting successes/failures of the two debates instructs the President’s next two. There were some quotes floating about that indicated that there were changes in the prep afoot even before this, but we’ll see what happens there.

Actually, they were just quoting the CBS snap poll.

CNN poll says…
48 Ryan, 44 Biden.

WTF?