I don’t think she’s dim at all. I think she, like many women who’ve had to deal with exactly this type of treatment from swine like Trump, women who’ve been taught from an early age not to make waves and go along to get along, is doing exactly what she has been conditioned to do - survive.
Thank you once again for pointing out my mistake in giving you too much credit.
What would she have to do to convince you to accept her words instead of your imposed viewpoint?
I can’t speak for QuickSilver. Speaking for myself, Ms. Hawkins could do one of two things.
She could unilaterally change the societal convention* that it is unacceptable to grab another person and sexually accost them without their permission.
She could travel back in time and ensure that Trump asks her permission for his theatrics including the physical handling in advance of their encounter.
Failing either or both of those conditions, the fact remains that Trump grabbed and smooched her without her permission, which is not acceptable behavior.
I’m not sure why questions involving men handling women cause such confusion. If there is something you are not supposed to do, don’t do it! Just don’t do it! I really don’t understand why this is such a hard concept.
*and laws. There are laws.
…Bricker thinks that it can be problematic for women share their stories of sexual assault. He never did return to that thread to explain exactly what those problems would actually would be. But in the context of his posts in that thread his posts in this thread make more sense.
Bricker also will passionately fight to make sure that these boards are not a safe place for women to share there stories of sexual assault. Not even in MPSIMS. Women are not telling stories: they are making assertions. And we can’t have a safe space for that.
So it seems pretty clear to me. Bricker just wants women to shut up and know their place. Women may have harrowing and horrible stories to tell: but he doesn’t want to hear them. Over the last couple of years the internet has been a disaster for women: with things like “gamergate” and “ghostbusters” driving women into hiding, off social media platforms and even some women to move states.
What you don’t realize Bricker, and what you will probably unfortunately never realize is what it is like to wake up in the morning and log into your email to find that 100 people have sent you an email calling you a whore: calling you a bitch, and threatening the life of you, your family, your friends and even your dog. To log into twitter to find your feed is unusable because the feed has been hijacked. To find someone has private messaged you a photo of them in front of your private workplace. You will never know what it is like for people to track down your house and to start posting images from google maps to all and sundry to prove that “you have been lying.”
This is the reality that people like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian and Randi Harper and and Felecia Day and Leigh Alexander and and Laurie Penny and Leslie Jones (and the list is too long I’m gonna stop there) have to live with every day. If you are a women with any sort of profile that speaks out against the “Alt-Right” you are going to get attacked: and by attacked I’m not talking about a few harsh words on a messageboard, but vicious, nasty, horrible, personal attacks. And there is no bigger representative of the “Alt-Right” than Donald Trump. Look at what has happened to his accusers. Look what happened just a few days ago.
So if in the current environment Jennifer Hawkins chooses not to make herself a target: that is completely understandable. I don’t think she is lying. I don’t think she is dim: I don’t think she is being anything but diplomatic, and if I were in her position I would do exactly the same. But the video footage is pretty fucking clear. And if you can’t see what is happening in the video Bricker it is because you choose not to see it.
Like i said, Backpfeiffengesicht.
Not looking like she wanted to crawl out of her own skin rather than let Trump kiss her would be a good place to start.
So in order to convince you she would have to invent time travel?
Yes, in order for me to reach the same conclusion as you, we’d all have to go back in time and observe her behave in an instinctively different manner than she did.
Ok, then I simply disagree with your conclusion and because your theory is untestable, I have nothing more to say.
So, we’re adjourned?