I tend to not watch this on Friday but usually only find time to watch on Saturday or Sunday. Showing up to this thread after a couple days and seeing 150 new replies puts a kink in my ability to talk about it. Bummer.
The FoX-Men Quicksilver reveal definitely had me scratching my head for quite a while last night. But most of you in this thread have landed where I did. It’s DEFINTELY not a random Easter Egg. But time will tell how overt they are with the alternate realty X-Men actually interacting with our MCU.
As an aside, as a non-comic reader, I really dislike the idea of the X-Men and Marvel supers teaming up and interacting in a single universe. I don’t have a particularly strong rational argument against it, and it might just be the bias of having watched all the movies as their own universes for 20 years, but it feels wrong to me. The superheroes get their powers in weird ways and fight bad guys. X-Men are mutants and fight other mutants. I like the idea that those two conceits are different and exist apart from one another.
Having thought about this some more, I think the best approach might be to leave this deliberately vague, so that nothing about the “recast” Pietro requires knowledge of the FoX-Men universe, but nothing contradicts it, either. That way, fans of both franchises who want a cross-over (like me) can watch it as being the Quicksilver from the FoX-Men universe, fans who don’t want the FoX-Men chocolate in their MCU peanut butter (like Omniscient) can watch it as a Quicksilver from a parallel universe, and fans of the MCU who don’t know or care much about the FoX-Men universe don’t even need to worry about it.
I think its going to come down to how Wanda looks at him - so far, we just have shock/surprise since she clearly said “that’s not me” when the knock came at the door.
Will she state that he is or is not her Pietro or some wannabe/doppleganger (you’re Pietro, just not my Pietro).
THat will make alot of difference in the next episode.
I agree 100%. Both universes are big enough that they should be able to support themselves independently. Just randomly having Nightcrawler show up in a Spider-Man movie to save the day, or vice versa, will cheapen both franchises.
Pretty confident they will be kept in different universes of the multiverse almost completely with my suspicion being that any new XMen movies will be in one not yet seen.
But, like Spider-Man in Civil War, you could still have an MCU version of Nightcrawler show up, right? I think this is eventually how they get a recast Wolverine into the mix.
That’s largely how they’ve been treated even in the comics, at least when I was still reading (I haven’t really followed comic books in about 20 years now). Even though the X-Men were technically within the larger Marvel Universe, they rarely interacted with other Marvel characters. The mutant books mostly stayed within their own little world, and the other superheroes rarely seemed to notice any of their goings-on.
Not counting the company-wide “Crossover Events” that involved everybody, and disrupted the continuity of your favorite series so they could jam in some stuff about a bunch of characters you didn’t give a damn about. One of the reasons I quit reading.
I really haven’t followed the x-men movies. The first one was pretty good, and then they were just, meh, after that, IMHO.
I had no idea who this guy was that showed up claiming to be Wanda’s brother, I didn’t think he looked like the guy from the MCU movie, but it’d been a while since I’d seen it. Definitely remember him being more lanky and guant than this guy though.
Before I read this thread after seeing last week’s episode, (Mondays are usually my day for watching TV or other leisure activities) I thought it was just a random townsperson tasked into that role. I know that he died, but so did Vision, and I figured she was trying to bring him back now, too, even if entirely subconsciously.
Interesting that he’s the actor from the other universe, that certainly can have other implications. I don’t see why Wanda would have brought him here, he must be here on someone else’s behalf.
Unless it is actually a meaningless casting for fan service/fan misdirection, in which case, definitely a bit of a dick move, but interestingly, not one that I would have even noted if I were not discussing this here with others who have watched both sides of the Marvel Universe(s).
Okay, on an unrelated, but very weird note, as I was finishing up this post, I got a call from a client whose dogs are named Storm and Jubilee… Wanda breaking the fourth wall?
Even then, the X-Men were (ironically) often segregated. Wanda’s “No more mutants” that reduced the world’s population of super-powered mutants to 198 individuals was a huge crisis in the various X-titles, but barely even acknowledged in any of the other titles. And the Civil War storyline dominated every title in the Marvel Universe for months - except the X-Men explicitly stayed out of it, and it was barely even acknowledged in the X-titles.
I simply could not get into this show until they started incorporating the “real world” into it. It was either very bold, or very stupid for them to do 2 full “homage” episodes. I was very close to calling it quits after those, and actually did wait several days before watching the 3rd one. Perhaps that’s why the first two released together. I didn’t find them even entertaining on a comedic level (Paul Bettany needs to stick to more serious stuff imo).
Now, I’m mostly fine with it. I like the QuickSilver change. I’ve liked Evan Peters ever since American Horror Story, and he was a bright spot in the X-men movies, even if they weren’t that great. The other guy was completely forgettable. Not disappointed.
I saw Paul Bettany at a Comic Con once. He was hilarious. Really funny guy. I don’t think his job in this show is to be funny, its a horror/sci fi show with old sitcoms being the partial setting.
I’m sure he may be. But I’m not sure being funny IRL and a good comedic actor necessarily translate. Conversely, a lot of great comedic actors are NOT funny IRL.
Yeah but, again, I don’t think his job in this show is to be funny. It’s to pretend to be a sitcom character under really weird and increasingly creepy and concerning circumstances. This is not a straight comedy show. I don’t think it’s a comedy show at all actually. There are points of comic relief for sure, but that’s different.
Well, it wasn’t supposed to be entertaining on a comedic level, so I think maybe they succeeded there. It was supposed to be entertaining in a “these episodes are purposefully campy so that we can directly counter them with moments of surrealty and horror to show the audience that something truly fucked up is going on”. For me, they worked perfectly. YMMV.
By the way, wasn’t there a throwaway line in episode 5 about "I know an aerospace engineer who could help "? I may be misremembering that, need to go back and watch it, but I can’t think of who that would be.
I mean that’s the premise and vehicle of the show. You don’t have to like it. But that is what they set out to do and I’m very much enjoying the entire experience so far. Maybe because I grew up with some of these shows the homages appeal to me in a retro way, but it’s the creepiness and weirdness on top of that supposedly wholesome platform that really makes it work IMO.
Modnote: OK, enough, this discussion derailed the last Wanda thread. People have differing opinions. I like the Pleasantville aspects of the show, others don’t. enough back and forth on it.