Here’s the scene from episode 4 on YouTube.
It’s exactly what we just saw - she “kicks” open the lobby door, then shatters the glass overlooking the lab and levitates down. Then the video cameras cut out one by one, in a way that implies Wanda’s disabling them. But you never see her actually take the body.
NOW she knows that she cannot get that power like Wanda did, by touching the Mind stone … so she is left at this point facing a myth level witch who has no idea what she is capable of. Clearly in possession of power far greater than hers but not knowing what she has. Think fast Agatha!
Internal dialogue:
Meanwhile … where is Monica during this?
And was the “M” rune significant?
Seems like his entire goal was to get Vision working again, that’s why she tried goading Wanda into doing it at first. So yeah, he lied about her stealing the body as the motivation for SWORD, when in reality they also just wanted to know how she was doing it.
Didn’t Agatha say, after the first flashback scene, that Wanda had kept the Stark bomb from going off for two days? Indicating that Wanda already had some power, that was likely augmented by that Infinity Stone (the Mind one? I can’t keep up with all those wacky colors!).
Yes. As I’ve mentioned several times, Scarlet Witch has probably the most convoluted and inconsistent power set in the entire Marvel Universe. They’ve bounced back and forth from the mutant power to give people bad luck to mutant powers that just happened to mimic magic to actual magic to a mix of mutant powers and actual magic to her mutant power is the power to control magic, and back, and everywhere in-between. Oh, and even when she supposedly just had “luck” powers she also somehow had telekinesis and energy blasts.
I think it was Kurt Busiek on his run on Avengers in the late 90s-early 00s who tried to impose some sort of continuity on the whole mess. He decided that she was actually manipulating a primal form of magic called “Chaos Magic.” Brian Michael Bendis, in his run on Avengers a decade later, counter-retconned that, and in the “Avengers Disassembled” storyline that WandaVision draws heavily from, all sorts of weirdness around Wanda starts happening and accelerates into various disasters. Doctor Strange shows up, and when one of the Avengers says that Wanda’s “Chaos Magic” is out of control, Doctor Strange replies something along the lines of “I’m the Sorcerer Supreme of this dimension. I’m the greatest living expert on magic. And I’m telling you, there’s no such thing as Chaos Magic.”
It’s then revealed that Wanda’s actual power is the power to directly manipulate reality, and she’s been aware of that on some level the entire time, and she’s been manipulating reality and perceptions and reality since her first appearance, sometimes intentionally and sometimes unintentionally, and she’s profoundly insane.
Yes. Agatha clearly thinks that Wanda is actually a literal, magic-wielding witch, and was able to instinctively cast some minor spells as a child, and that her magical abilities would have “died on the vine” except her encounter with an Infinity Stone super-charged them. Since Agatha’s Antimagic Field successfully counters Wanda’s powers, she seems to be empirically correct.
That should read, “…she’s been manipulating memories and perceptions and reality…”
Oh, and @Discord? I couldn’t watch the episode until I got home from work, by which time there were already 30+ unread responses in this thread. Now, yes, I could have tried to multiquote and responded to three completely different posts by three different posters in a single post of my own, but your own thread scrolling and multiquote set-up makes that technically clunky, and I don’t want to try to combine them into a single post. So, if I want to make three posts in a row, I’ll make three posts in a row.
Stop nagging me.
#@(& you very much.
The biggest thing unexplained so far is “Pietro Maximoff”. Agatha strongly implied that he was just some rando that she had found, Pietro’s actual body being full of holes and on another continent. So why does he look like a character from a different (but related) franchise? He better not be just a goddamn Easter egg.
That’s how I read it as well. It’s mostly curiosity mixed with a few other things. Agnes has been around for 300+ years, she knows all of the major players, many of the minor ones, and how to do most everything - and all of a sudden a giant, crazy amount of really difficult magic pops up out of nowhere? She wanted to find out who is doing this, why, and how. Who was easy. Why/how not so much - partially because Wanda herself didn’t really know (she knows she’s altered by the infinity stone. She didn’t know she was a latent witch) so she wasn’t acting like a witch would.
She was honestly surprised when Wanda didn’t know any of the magic-y stuff (runes, simple spells) in the basement, because that was elementary. Wanda is doing the magic equivalent of solving the millennium problems without knowing how to count.
Looking at the commercials again - they may be her to be the magic talking to her? maybe? The toaster “forget the past, this is your future” - if her magic held it off, then that’s her future. Hydrasoak’s “find the goddess within” is arguably what happened when she touched the infinity stone (we can call whatever-that-was a “goddess”). And the yo-magic commercial implies that she has the power to bring back Vision, she just has no idea how to access her magic.
One of the things it didn’t explain is Pietro? Are there male witches? Is it (whatever it is) genetic? Does it (WII) manifest differently in men?
My ‘Pietro is beekeeper SWORD agent’ theory still holds.
They never showed his face. They never brought him out of the Hex. That’s either a plot hole or a plot point.
Potentially gives the character more to do post-series than just some mind-controlled rando.
Maybe he’s the new Whizzer.
Narrative-wise I think that’s the reason he’ll be fighting/teaming with Monica. SWORD vs SWORD.
I mean original Pietro (not inside the hex Pietro). He must have touched the infinity stone as well and it left him with superspeed. More importantly, it didn’t kill him. Was that witchcraft? or?
I didn’t like this episode that much, but that’s ok. There always has to be a “least favorite” in a set of things.
One of my problems was that I don’t get the whole point and timeline.
So the Sword guy seemed to be pushing Wanda to rage out then they could tap into her magic so they could tap into it and jumpstart the corpse of what I can only assume to be a Vision-shaped being, but not really him him.
But… this takes place explicitly just a few weeks after the Blip. How did they get Vision’s corpse and the machine to zap it ready in such a short time? Wouldn’t they have had a lot more going on, like trying to figure out to do with all the reappearing agents and threats?
So maybe they had been working on it for five years, but how did they know Wanda would ever come back to jumpstart it?
I suppose it could have been like they tried and tried for a while after the snap to get him going and built the stuff and were like “oh, we need a power source. Let’s just put it in storage until we have a good idea.” And then like… they prioritized it over everything else going on? It just doesn’t really work for me. Maybe if it had been “some unspecified time after the blip but before Far From Home.”
I think “witch” and “wizard” are probably more-or-less interchangeable here. I’m not sure what that means for Pietro. I’m guessing that Wanda was able to somehow use her power to mediate Pietro’s interface with the infinity stone, so it gave him powers instead of killing him outright, and that he didn’t have inherent powers to start with the way Wanda did.
lots of comments already made - not sure I have anything to add other than it was a great episode with lots (almost too much) stuff in it.
THe movie theatre marquee changed when she first expanded the hex over the town to “The Big Red”.
Which I think at this point simply == “Scarlet Witch” - a natural witch that doesn’t realize she is one (until now, of course) that can “create stuff out of nothing” and is full of Chaos Magic.
And Agatha thinks its a good idea to hold her kids hostage in front of her without the runes around?
Wanda’s creation of Vision had alot of yellow energy (mindstone) passing to it - and I have a feeling that the resolution to Vision2 is that Wanda will fuse them together.
Sword guy was specifically trying to get Wanda to bring Vision back online, something they’d been trying to do for FIVE years. It was weeks after the blip, but Vision died in Infinity War.
Right but they didn’t know Wanda was coming back. So like… they just tinkered under the hood for five years and then 3 weeks after the blip decide to push the buttons of a god level avenger because AAA wouldn’t work?
I don’t think they planned on it, she just happened to show up one day so why not give it a shot?
Pretty much? Vision is space-alien level technology. Even if they have no hope of reanimating him, there’s no end of stuff they can learn just by studying his remains. Likely, they experimented with a bunch of different energy sources to bring him back with no luck, hence having the charging machine lying around when they finally got their hands on the drone. Or, heck, maybe they built it from scratch the day after Wanda visited the lab. This is a universe where it took Tony Stark about three days to build a particle collider in his basement using a sledgehammer and a carpenter’s level. Building what’s basically an over-sized iPhone charger is probably a lot simpler.
Another theory shot down is that the two characters in all the commercials were not Wanda and Pietro’s parents.