"We told you so!" (Anti-Clinton Rant)

Hillary will, of course, be elected. And nothing can impede America’s slide into a smoldering social and economic landfill. So Hillary will be elected, everything will get worse, as it must, and the Trump people will say “See? We told you so”. Every dire prediction they make about Hillary’s administration will, and must, come true because nothing can be done, by anyone, to stop it. Even if we had Washington running against Lincoln, it’s a straight line down.

So the real danger to the republic is not in this election, but in the next one, when there will be even fewer straws to clutch at in the even steeper-sided shithole, with even less confidence in traditional statesmanship… Let’s cut straight to Godwin: This is where Hitlers come from.

Well, I (and most other people, probably) think you’re overselling your premise by a very, very wide margin. And what’s more, I suspect you know you’re doing it too.

But if you’re serious, and not just playing devil’s advocate/trying to prove a point or whatever, you can prove your sincerity by moving into a bunker and stocking up on canned goods and potable water.

In fact, if you really believe what you’re saying, how could you possibly do otherwise? It would be the only rational course of action. If you’re not prepared to go “full prepper”, either you don’t believe your own line, or you don’t care about your own well-being. What other possibility is there?

Cite?

What exactly are their predictions? I could never get anything specific more specific from Trump supporters than “you’ll regret it.”

Cite?

Donald Trump is the cite.

The discourse of Trump’s campaign has always been this narrative, pulled directly out of his ass–a fiction that appeals to those who want to make America [del]white[/del] great again. The OP is just carrying the water for him, (and the monetary interests of whatever Trump media concern results from all of this).

Here’s my prediction.

It doesn’t matter whether things get better or worse under Hillary Clinton. Either way, right wing pundits will declare a disaster has occurred and their uninformed followers will believe it.

This one Trump-supporting friend of mine told me “Hillary will kill us all!” I had to admit I hadn’t heard that one before. To be fair, I’m pretty sure he was drunk at the time.

“But… but… Orangehand-Little! You said the Sky was going to fall…! What happened?”

“Shut up and get to work at your better job! I have to get this new network up and running so I can pay off all of these Tax Liens and Garnishments.
These bills are YU-uuuge…!”
…and the people… by the people… who were finally once again for the people… lived Happily Ever After.

~fin~

:wink:

Very strange, I remember reading here the same predictions or the essentially identical for the election of the President Obama. But by all the objective financial, social and economic measures, you have a stronger country than at the end of the younger Bush presidency. But it is a country that is less blanche neige. That is maybe the ruin…

Why your fellow Americans should have any confidence in people who are supporting a serial bankrupter of companies, a man who engaged in many frauds and abuses… I do not undrestand.

I guess the old white people of america can not easily forget their social history

History keeps teaching us Republican predictions are terrible. Maybe someday people will realize this and stop voting for them.

I agree. It’s a reality TV show–a form of entertainment whose very appeal derives from make-believe “reality.” This is Trump’s expertise, and essentially defines his whole campaign. There’s no reason why they wouldn’t want to continue it, if they can make a buck off of it.

Maybe I’m in a bubble, because I live in a state with a Democratic Governor and a healthy economy, but I honestly can’t figure out what the OP is complaining about. I’ll concede some people are struggling. That’s hardly new, however.

I don’t get to alt-right web sites. What are they predicting? I thought “Obama’s Third Term” was supposed to scare us. (we should be so lucky).

Me, I’m just grateful that Mitt Romney’s promises of 5% unemployment and $2.00/gallon gasoline came true.

To be fair, when people are struggling when the economy is supposedly doing well (record stock prices etc), that feels much worse than when everyone is struggling and big banks are begging to be bailed out. And many are struggling because their jobs have been offshored, which is why there is growing resentment of free trade.

Especially blatant the past few years have been the attempts to “unskew” the unemployment numbers in order to discredit the Obama administration (inasmuch as Obama has anything to do with the recovery.) When they refer to broader measures of unemployment, which are supposedly in the mid-teens, they implicitly contrast it with the single-digit standard numbers of the late Bush administration because they don’t reveal what his broader numbers were. I have to assume that if Obama’s “discouragement-adjusted” unemployment rate were 18% and Bush’s was 10% or so, that we would hear it from the rooftops every time they drag out that stat, so I have to assume Bush’s numbers were abyssmal-seeming as well, which of course leads one to the conclusion that this fact is obfuscated for a reason.

Rant.

Pit.

Yep. And no matter how bad that could get, there’s no way a Trump presidency would be anywhere near that good. Cite: the behavior of those Republicans on Capitol Hill for the past eight years and the one in the White House just prior to that. Some people have a tendency to forget who was driving the bus when the wheels fell off.

Stick around for four to eight years. I’d like the satisfaction of gloating with my own “Told you so!”, when nothing remotely apocalyptic happens during or after HRC’s presidency.

If you lost your job because the plant you worked at closed down or moved out of the country, not only you personally but many of the people you know, and maybe your whole town, are going to be suffering. While watching the first debate, I could see how Trump was appealing to these sorts of people. Unfortunately, his solution—if we can just plug the holes that all the jobs are leaking out of (and illegal immigrants are leaking in through) we can turn back the clock to a time when America’s blue-collar workers were thriving—isn’t workable. ANd Trump himself has been part of the problem, not part of the solution, and no friend to the common man (let alone woman).

Or, see this insightful Cracked.com article: How Half Of America Lost Its F**king Mind.