Wedding Invitations (mis)interpretation

Ninevah, in a nutshell it’s your wedding and you get to decide who is invited. If you want a child-free wedding (excluding kids in the wedding, if you have kids in your wedding party) then it’s your decision and no one else (except your SO, that is :wink: ) gets to question it.

I have three Silverjuniors of my own. If I’m invited to a wedding where the kids are not invited, I either accept and plan for a babysitter or regretfully decline and send a gift. I don’t show up with my kids anyway and wonder when the hell the bride got so snot-nosed she didn’t want my kids at her wedding. :rolleyes:

It’s your big day. You get to plan it, you call the shots because this day will live in your memory forever - you want it to be as much to your liking as possible. :smiley:

Just some miscellaneous etiquette hell:

I was helping a good friend of mine prepare her wedding invitations. I was maid of honor and was being a dutiful MOH and friend by helping. :smiley:

In any event, I personally thought she’d made a mistake on the kind of invites she ordered and off-handedly mentioned it as we were working on them.

There were little RSVP cards that were to be included in the invites. They were going to be in self-addressed little envelopes that guests could just mail back to indicate whether they were accepting or declining.

The invitations themselves were addressed specifically to each person being invited. For example, one invite might be addressed in the following manner: Mr. and Mrs. John Doe, daughter Janet Doe and John Doe Jr.

The RSVP cards listed each person on the invite:
"Mr. and Mrs. John Doe, Janet Doe and John Doe Jr:

__ will attend
__ must decline

If attending, ___ guests will attend.

Here is where I thought the big mistake was.

I know the reason that part was there; to account for maybe only a couple of invited guests from the same party being able to attend. For example, if Mr. and Mrs. John Doe planned to attend but their invited kids didn’t want to go, Mr. and Mrs. Doe could check off “will attend” and could specify that two people from the four on that invitation would attend.

Mistake, mistake, mistake. I knew what was going to happen but my dear friend pooh-poohed me about it. :rolleyes: People couldn’t possibly be that inconsiderate, boorish and crass, right? :rolleyes:

Okay, so a few weeks later and we’ve got a deadline to meet. She needs to have her numbers to the hotel catering manager. She’s got a budget to work with so she sized their invitation list accordingly. She’s got to pay by the head so she only invited as many people as her budget could handle.

She calls me in a panic and I come over. She’s opening RSVP cards as they come in and she’s jotting down the numbers. Well, there’s quite a few RSVP cards that are coming back with names of additional guests written in.

There are RSVP cards that have “will attend” checked off, but some people wrote in names of additional people that would be coming, and some people just wrote in a number of guests to attend that exceeded the number of guests listed on the invitation.

We get through a good portion of the RSVP cards (almost all of them had come back by that time) and there’s about thirty or so, if I recall, where invited guests penciled in additional guests who were not invited by the bride or groom. That’s a lot - thirty.

This one RSVP card had three people invited, and I remember they had penciled in some ridiculous number, like 8 or 9 guests would be attending.

Needless to say, the stress had gotten to her and she melted down. Her fiance came in around that time and was seriously pissed off. A good portion of the etiquette “offenders” were people he/his parents had put on the guest list and he was flipping angrily through the RSVP cards and swearing. :rolleyes:

I took the list, the cards and the master folder with all the wedding plans in it and told friend and fiance what I was going to do. My friend’s fiance was busy trying to soothe her so I traipsed off to the back bedroom of their apartment, plopped on the bed and starting making phone calls.

“Yes, hello, this is Silver and I’m Friend’s wedding consultant. Yes, it’s going to be a wonderful wedding, we’ve got a beautiful event planned. Yes …yes…yes, they’re looking forward to seeing you as well…well, I’m calling about the RSVP card you returned, and although the bride and groom certainly mean absolutely no inconvenience to anyone, unfortunately due to the location of the ceremony and reception we just aren’t able to accommodate additional guests other than those who were invited. I understand completely…your mother’s sister’s aunt’s godddaughter and her family staying with you that week…understand completely…unfortunately the wedding and reception site can only accommodate X number of people…I apologize for the inconvenience, but will you, Ms. No Etiquette and 2 kids be attending? Can’t make it after all…I completely understand…of course I’ll relay your sincerest congratulations to the bride and groom…thank you SO much, have a wonderful evening…”

Okay, so that’s not word-for-word, but I laid on the diplomacy really thick and used stuff like that. :smiley:

Out of all the etiquette offenders I called, only one made even the slightest attempt to protest. “Well, I’m sure she** meant ** to invite my mother…”

“Oh, I’m sorry sir, was she on the invitation?”

“No, but my mother lived with us and she saw her often when she came over, blah blah gurble gurble blah blah…”

“I do sincerely apologize sir, it’s an unfortunate fact that the location of the ceremony and reception is limited as to how many persons can occupy…”

So I put down that this guy and the other invited guests on his invite would attend sans his mother, who was not invited and whom the bride did not even remember when I brought this up to her. :rolleyes:

:eek: :eek: :eek:

But it turned out to be a really nice wedding and I don’t recall that there were any snafus with too many people being there bumping the invited guests out of their places. It helped that there were place cards at all the tables. :smiley:

Sorry for the hijack. :smiley:

We did this at our wedding as well. At the bottom of the invitation I specifically had printed “Adult reception immediately following”. We had the wedding and reception in the same place, so it would have been impossible to have kids there if they wanted to stay for the reception.

We had one rule-breaker and that was my uncle who brought his two kids. He knew we specifically wanted no kids and he brought them anyways. I didn’t argue because a) he was officiating the ceremony b) they left after an hour c) they were under strict orders by their parents to behave. Luckily they were around 10-13 at the time, so I didn’t hear a peep from them.

Stick to your guns and I wouldn’t let the infant either. Once the baby is here, she may not want it around lots of people (and germs) at that age. She’ll remember after she has the new baby.

I am soooo with you on this one. I’m a worse parent, even if kids were welcome I’d still get the sitter. :wink:

silver1, you rock like a big rocking thing. If I ever get married (again), will you be my maid of honor?

Threads like this always make me slightly irritated and I realize that I am going to be Bridezilla From Hell. You do it my way or you don’t come. I am going to be all over that “Whose day is it? It’s my day!!” stuff.

Nineveh, I am of the opinion that if the kids’ names weren’t on the invitation, they’re not invited, and you should stick to your guns. And good luck! :slight_smile:

By the way, assuming one wanted to, how would one address an invitation to include a not-yet-born baby?

Mr. and Mrs. Whosis, and Fetus?

:slight_smile:

“The Whosis Family.”
But then, that would include ALL of the children. I’m not sure how you would include the fetus and not include the toddler. Thus, the thread.

:wally = me

“Please, no children, or potential children” :smiley:
Of course, if you mean to invite the fetus… (my head hurts now…)

My second wedding was immediate family only, no kids. I asked my best friend to be the baby sitter and had my 10 nieces and nephews all together at my brother’s house under her watchful eye for the duration of the ceremony and reception. I made an exception for my youngest nephew who was about 3 months old at the time and nursing. He slept almost the whole time.

My best friend was a little miffed that she didn’t get to attend but grateful that she got to participate in some small way.

The other nieces and nephews (all under the age of 8) would have been bored to tears and since I had the wedding in my living room there wasn’t really room for them anyway.

Everyone was fine with that. Too bad that husband turned out to be a dud.

Okay, I draw the line at inviting the mother, but not the fetus. Sheesh, people. :smiley:

silver1, you do indeed rock. It sounds like you handled that beautifully.

Draelin, I’m not much for demanding my way and stuff, but it was my day, and it was going to be my way (assume that my husband is also included in the umbrella “my.”) Just make sure if you don’t invite kids that you tell the parents well in advance, so they don’t give you any shit about, “Well, YOU can be the one to break our little angel’s heart, then, since we already promised her she would be a flower girl.” or crap like that. Not enough roll-eyes in the world for that.

It’s becoming less and less taboo. My parents are at that age where they no longer have friends with young children but 99% of their friends are as of yet without grandchildren. My parents slashed the names of all the kids we grew up with (i.e. their friends’ children) off the list for my sis’s wedding because we’re having it at a super-expensive location (the Ritz, which also has a really strict number limit) and frankly both my sister, I and the groom hate them, anyway. I’ve seen this on quite a few invitations these days-quite a few people invite just my parents and leave me and my sis of the invitation and no one thinks anything of it. I have no doubt my parents will nix all the kids on my wedding list as well (their money, their call and I don’t give a damn).

You got that, too? My then-future MIL shocked the hell out of me when she called to ask what color DH’s niece R. would be required to wear. To our no-kids wedding, which had been explained in advance to everyone.

I was polite, but slow - it didn’t occur to me where that one was headed. I let DH-to-be handle it!

My favorite was the moron wife of one of DH’s co-workers who was so offended by our not inviting her kids that she not only turned up with her monsters in tow, she’d apparently ransacked her neighborhood for the most unholy spawn of Satan she could find.

Hey, thanks! :smiley: If you get married, I’m all over it. :smiley:

Lemme tell you, I was nervous as hell doing these phone calls. It was really sad to see my old friend crying helplessly when she should have been happy as a lark to be getting married.

I was wondering if I was about to start WW III with Friend’s and her SO’s families but thank goodness, nobody turned it into a federal case and the wedding came off nicely.
Whew! :smiley:

Thanks featherlou. :smiley: I was so nervous making those phone calls but it all worked out okay.

I was once a guest (invited, I promise! :wink: ) at the wedding of a close family friend. I was in high school at the time. I went to the bathroom and overheard some women in there talking about how there were uninvited guests at the wedding, and some on-the-spot arrangements that had to be done at the reception to accommodate the “crashers”. I recognized the voices as friends of my mother’s and passed it on to my mother when I got back to our table. Needless to say she got the scoop a couple of days later and apparently invited guests just brought along extra people with them.

It’s a wedding, not a free concert in the park. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Snakescatlady]
There are places where kids belong. A wedding is not one of them. QUOTE] I don’t think this is strictly true, as written. I would say it’s more like, “There are places where kids belong. A wedding to which they have not been invited is not one of them.” Lots of people have weddings where kids are invited and welcomed – nothing wrong with that. And lots of people prefer not to have kids at their weddings – and there’s nothing wrong with that either. Weddings aren’t either-or propositions – weddings come in all sorts of configurations.

Personally, I couldn’t have attended a wedding an hour and a half away from home without my 2 week old – that’s 3 hours travel time, plus 5 hours for the wedding and reception. Once the kid was a 1 or two old? Sure, I could have left him or her with a sitter for the day. But a 2 week old? Couldn’t have done it. However, I wouldn’t have held that against the couple – they invited me and I couldn’t make it, no real big deal. I would have just declined the invitation properly and congratulated them on their wedding.

I am oh so happy that my upcoming wedding is at the officer’s club on a military installation. Double security that uninvited little brats (and any unwanted guests) will be unable to attend:

  1. Photo ID is required to get on base.
  2. Name appearing on the guest list is required to get into the officer’s club.

Only Mostly Missus and I decided long ago that it would be an “adult” wedding. Most kids don’t particularly want to be there, and they take attention away from the evening’s focus: there’s a bloody wedding going on!

You obviously have waaay more stamina than I did. I never **could ** have attended a wedding an hour & a half away 2 weeks after having a baby. And I was in pretty good shape back when I was birthin’ babies. But no way would I have undertaken that much travel plus five hours without a nap. Especially since in the OP an older child was also involved.

I think the only time I cried helplessly while planning my wedding was after my first foray into wedding dress shopping. My burning hatred for wedding dress shoppes might cool some day, who knows?

Well, to be completely honest, I could have done it (an 8 hour day) after my first child was born (assuming that I could have taken him with me, since I was breastfeeding), but not after my second. With my first I had a very easy delivery – just 7 hours from my water breaking to his birth – and a quick recovery. I went grocery shopping less than 24 hours after his birth and was back in my pre-prenancy clothes within a week. We went on a 3-day camping trip when he was 11 days old, and on a week long camping trip when he was 3 weeks old – trailer camping, not tent-camping, but still. With my second child (who was born 10 1/2 months after my first) it would have been a very different story. She was premature and I had a difficult delivery (lots of blood loss) capped off with an emergency (old-style up-and-down-incision) c-section and a blood transfusion. I was still in the hospital 10 days after she was born and on bed rest for another week or so after that.

I’m not sure it’s a matter of being enamored with their kids. I think they look on their kids as a hobby, or a big-ticket status item. I don’t think they love their kids very much at all, really. If they did, they wouldn’t drag their kids to an event where:

—There are not likely to be any other kids
—They won’t like the food
—They’ll have to wear uncomfortable clothes (well, an exception would be a girl who loves to dress up, but in that case, there should be plenty of other opportunities)
—No one will pay attention to them, especially not their parents
—They won’t even know anybody
—There won’t be anything for them to do
—But everyone else will be having a high old time
—(Long shot, but) Someone might think it funny and cute to give the kid alcohol or swing them around by their hands or otherwise humiliate them
—All this will probably be bookended by extensive travel time

The “but you didn’t mean mine” kind of parent is not doing that for the kid; they’re doing it for themselves. Because no one tells them what to do. No one! If they cared about the kid, they would leave them with a babysitter or relative.