You’ve got a jerk with no respect for other people or social boundaries, is what you’ve got. If you consider jerkishness and lack of respect for others normal and healthy, I fear for your prospective children.
CrazyCatLady, You’ve got to be kidding me. My son knows not to go through peoples stuff he also knows not to bardge in peoples room with out knocking first. As a matter of fact he’s pretty well versed between just about everything thats right or wrong
But THIS situation is a bit to the extreme. This is what I picture that happened to the OP:
Here these kids are minding their own business when all of the sudden they hear grunting/moaning whatever it was. Kids being curious in nature AND being in a group together only compounded their temptation to take a gander.
Now, did the kids do wrong? yes.
But can you blame them? Hardly.
I’m going to ignore your little pretentious remarks about my son.
Try pissing into the reservoir, not the squirty end, silly.
Criminals? CRIMINALS??? Yeah, right. Yeah, these are the sort of desperados we need to be filling up our jails with.
Contributing to the delinquency of a minor is a crime. Those fuckers are criminals. It’s probably too late to call the cops but I’d sure as hell talk to the neighborhood association. Fuck that “open air sex act” shit. They criminally exposed their smelly nasty bits to the neighborhood in a noisy manner. They don’t deserve a pass.
Extremism- its what’s for dinner.
Then exactly what the fuck DID they have in mind when they made it illegal to peep in windows? What WERE they criminalizing? What part of making it illegal to peep in windows does NOT make it illegal to peep in windows. What the fuck are you talking about? Should what those kids did be legal? What the fuck is wrong with you?
You know, my wife and I were a victim of this once by a next door neighbor. There wasn’t a fucking thing funny about it. Get back to me after you look up at your window during sex and see some creep peering in at you. If you would condone your own kids doing that then you’re a shitty fucking parent. Fuck you.
What the fuck is your fucking point, asshole? Is peeping a crime or isn’t it? If it is then it is and it needs to be punished. Your little parody makes no fucking sense because the victims did nothing illegal. They were VICTIMS, you fucking moron. Blow me.
Yeah! And what the fuck did they have in mind when they decided to treat juveniles differently from adults? Blatantly unfair if you ask me. So your toddler walks out of the house naked. Indecent exposure! It’s off to the calaboose for him.
Let’s not let reason interfere with our celebration of victimhood.
It was my impression that we were talking about teenagers here, not toddlers. How old were those kids?
Teenagers are old enough to commit crimes, believe me…and get arrested for it. When I got busted for possession as a teenager I sure didn’t get any free passes or “boys will be boys” bullshit. What’s the difference if a teenager smokes weed or steals from a store or peeps in a window. Should they get free passes for all that shit or just the window peeping?
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Maybe that you are a hot-headed reactionary with no sense of appropriate response?
It’s not clear that these children were ‘peeping’. Is there a pattern of them doing this or was this the very first time they ended up there? Did they plan to go to the neighbour’s house or were there sounds that drew their attention there in the first place? Were no trespassing signs posted on the property? Was it fenced or made in any way inaccessible to the public?
Nor is it provable that the kids did. (Yes, that’s the point that just WHOOOSHED over your head) So tell me, Oh Icon of Level-Headedness, what would you expect the cop, who you called, to do once he/she gets to the scene? (No, besides trying to keep from rolling their eyes and laughing at all of you.)
“You…with the kids. You keep your kids off Ms. Smith’s property. If I catch you again, I’ll run you in. Now go Home.” {waits until they leave and are out of earshot} “And you, Ms. Smith, keep your windows closed and get a better shade. You were lucky it was just kids and not a Burglar or a Rapist at your window.” He/She would end it there, but they’d be thinking “…Because this is a Family neighbourhood, not the Amsterdam Red Light District and window shows are Not appreciated.”
As for ‘Who’s the Victim?’, here’s a Clue for you Blue: Nobody is. Except for maybe the cop that you dragged into it who has to straighten out all your sorry asses, because you are either too immature, too stupid, or too hot-headed to see the situation for what it really is: Kids drawn to an open window by the sounds of sex.
Not everyone is your pervert neighbour. If you can’t see that, then you need help. And it’ll go better for you in the long run if you seek help rather than you making Help seek You.
And for us ladies…um…women, try a large jar, then a funnel oughta do it. I’m gonna send the piss-gun idea into Heloise!
Yes it is. If they had to peep in through a crack then it was deliberate, not accidental, and it was illegal.
How old are these kids. Are they teenagers or are they “children?” I was under the impression that they were teenagers.
But apparently your kid wouldn’t know not to climb through someone else’s bushes and look through their blinds into their bedroom. And if they did, you’ve said yourself you’d be fine with that. Kids who are old enough to know not to go through other people’s stuff are old enough to know not to climb through other people’s bushes, or look into their windows, or to make the special effort to peek through their shades. So yes, my dear, you most certainly can blame them.
If there were sounds that could be shown to be inviting which preceded the kids following the source of those sounds back to what the OP poster calls “a small strip in MY blinds through which they could see”, then there’s enough reasonable doubt to drive a truck through. A prosecutor who wanted to maintain his/her win ratio would certainly never prosecute this. If you demanded to chase them in civil court, be warned that a good attorney could stalemate your arguments until one or both parties ran out of money, or until the judge got tired of hearing about it. Sure you can force a civil case out of this, but don’t kid yourself that it is open and shut. You also shouldn’t kid yourself that it’s the best solution for resolving the matter, just the most expensive one.
Now that you’ve stopped screaming Diogenes, you asked a good question about the ages of the kids/teenagers/adolescents.
Going back to the OP, the only age indicator mentioned was “a pubescent male voice”. (BTW, this doesn’t mean that there were no girls present in that crowd) The standard that I used to justify that they were “kids” was that on average, puberty hits during adolescence. Adolescence occurs before a child becomes a teenager. This leads the reader to assume that the age of the persons involved was somewhere around 10 but no more than 12 years old. Still, that one statement is a sketchy description of age at best.
Kinda related:
My backyard neighbors just recently cut down the hedges between our yard and theirs. Now I have to make sure my window is closed when doing the deed, when before the view was nice and blocked. Pisses me off to no end, because now I have to interupt the flow to get up and close the window or risk putting on a show for everyone.
Then again-- part of me wants to put on a show to teach them the value of privacy between neighbors. But maybe the hedges were interrupting their view or something though, which tends to dissuade me from that idea.
How can sounds be “inviting?” What does that mean? What is the legal definition of "inviting…especially if the sounds are emanating from inside a private residence?
Anyway, my motive in calling the police would not be to pursue a criminal prosecution but just to put a scare in them and teach them a lesson. If nothing else, their parents need to explain that such behavior is illegal and unacceptable and that adults who do that go to jail.
Now that you’ve stopped screaming Diogenes, you asked a good question about the ages of the kids/teenagers/adolescents.
Going back to the OP, the only age indicator mentioned was “a pubescent male voice”. (BTW, this doesn’t mean that there were no girls present in that crowd) The standard that I used to justify that they were “kids” was that on average, puberty hits during adolescence. Adolescence occurs before a child becomes a teenager. This leads the reader to assume that the age of the persons involved was somewhere around 10 but no more than 12 years old. Still, that one statement is a sketchy description of age at best.
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Um…I don’t know where you went through puberty but in my day it didn’t really start until at least twelve. To me adolescence is about 12-14, not ten.
For some reason, I had a visual image of kids who were more like 16 (hence the moral outrage over the snickering) but the OP doesn’t support that. They may be younger than I thought. Even if they were twelve, that’s still old enough to know what behaviors are inappropriate and peeping in windows is not something that should be laughed at or encouraged by a parent.
Agreed,The only point I’m trying to make is I wouldn’t nail my kid to the cross over something like that.
If it were my kid, the only thing I’d do to him is maybe tease him a bit and though my teasing him he’d probably take a look at himself and think “yeah, that probably wasn’t too cool.”
No, real punishment would be givien though. This is something 99.99% of children will outgrow anyway, so why bother?