Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!)

I agree with Blaster Master. No reason to delay. Let’s get the timer started, maybe that will persuade Autolycus defend himself. Based on his last post, I’m guessing that he won’t be up and active very soon, but he’ll have 12 hrs once we get 10 votes.

Lynch Autolycus

Eh… the only people that will take hours to research, are the loud, obnoxious ones like me and Queuing. :smiley:

I’ve only researched individuals like that when they’ve pinged my scum-dar, and I haven’t figured out exactly why, or I’m trying to make a case for why we should lynch them. So maybe just stick to the people who are high on the suspicion list…?

Well my other option is to like ACTUALLY earn my paycheque… :smiley:

I think Pimaspinner should announce because:

  • it lets any other Beat Cops decide who they want to investigate
  • if Pima is suspicious of a Mason, the Mason can decide whether to let Pima know (there’s been debate whether another Mason should reveal in case Pleonast is killed - the Mason can bear all that in mind)

That said, any idea how many votes he has. I will vote to lynch Autolycus now, and I will be able to unvote within the 12 hour window if the town decides we need to stop the countdown. Either way, he obviously wants the pressure, so… why the heck not?

OTOH, of course, our as yet unrevealed beat cop can hide in a pool of unconfirmed Citizens for now - if the scum want to try and find him it’s slightly easier for them to do so if the pool is made smaller by removing the Masons.

Time to get off the fence and vote Autolycus.

You and Queuing aren’t loud …
What? :smiley:

Sorry, I didn’t express myself very well - I meant that for a single suspect, it would take some time to find, read and evaluate every post.
I will indeed stick just to suspects (and I am enjoying the game a lot!)

HA! I’m earning it… just not in the form they’re paying me.

Excellent point, if pimaspinner is going to investigate a Mason, the Mason can claim and be confirmed to avoid wasting the investigation. Similarly, if he/we can pick a potential target for our unclaimed beat-cop.

sigh

Concur that Auto’s defense is pretty…subpar at the moment. If it’ll take a 12 hour count down to get him to step up to the plate, and give me a weekend away from the computer, Vote Autolycus. I’m not sure about Fern yet. I’ll read over those posts in more detail later on.

pimaspinner should announce; I agree with glee’s reasoning.

As for the rest of the silliness from the “loud, obnoxious ones” (your words! Not mine! :D), I’ve already gone over that twice.

Here is about **19 hours worth ** of Autolycus defending himself:

09.26 yesterday
I’s the godfather? Yeah, and JSexton’s the tooth fairy. I’lls defend myself from you crazies later, cuz me thinks it’s more beneficial-like to watch everyone get there pantiez in a bunch first. You catch more flies with a web of lies is what mum always said.

10.02 yesterday
Youz guys think way’s too highly of me. I wish I were that smart.

10.10 yesterday
Ye’r a punk ya know that? Of course I’s gonna defend myself. Later though. I’m still nursin’ a hangover from Hell.

0105 yesterday
waves

01.15 yesterday
Hold yer horses, I iz thinkin’

03.39 yesterday
Great’s logic ya got there, Playdoh. As fo’ my tight-lips: “I cook no swine before its time.”

03.50 yesterday
O rly?

03.59 yesterday
I’m going to karaoke very soon and will post my defense of this nonsense GF accusation later, so in like 3-5 hours or so. I dont think any defense will satiate the bloodlust of the lynch mob, but I’ll try o_o;

04.03 yesterday
Well in that case, clearly you have to get 27 votes and lynch me immediately

11.09 today
I’s back from karaoke. Seeing as I’m drunk and I’s got’s less than 10 votes, I’lll post my defense later. Goodsnight town.

It’s now about 0405…

Also I think we may have 10+ votes for him :cool:

Pimaspinner, Queuing, Menocchio, MadTheSwine, StarvingButStrong, Hocow, MonkeyMensch, Brewha (after an unvote + revote), Glee, Blaster Master and Malacandra.

(Rysto + Pleonast both voted, then unvoted to give more time)

Yes, its a random list that I have set up. So the possibilites are always the same.

Yes, but if a Beat Cop investigates a Mason, they won’t learn anything useful.
In fact, there is nearly a 50% chance they will get a wrong answer that makes them spend a second day investigating that same Mason.

Meanwhile the Mafia are ‘reducing the pool’ by one daily (and until we find the SK, there could be another two daily deaths :eek: ).

P.S. With Aguecheek joining in, we now have 12 votes for Autolycus (and … err … none for anyone else!)

Yah, I’m going to go ahead and Vote Autolycus too because I can’t see any point in waiting.

I’ll be around if unvoting is necessary. in the mean time, let’s get the clock started.

[Staying in character] I was over at Cecilton all day yesterday bidding on the town’s demo. They’re going to put in a Walmart, apparently.

I thought of a protective end-game strategem while I was on the road, though. If we come down to one or two Mafiosi at the end and haven’t found the SK yet we would be in serious peril. But we then ask the Millers to block the Mafia at night. At this point it would give a pretty good probability of NO Mafia kill during the night. And if the Doc is still around that we have the Doc protect the most likely of the Mafia members. That way we can hold a Mafia hostage, if you will, while we ferret out the SK.

I realize this scenario has some big conditionals and is a ways down the road, but I go to bed each evening with that Wesley feeling of, “Most likely I’ll be dead in the morning” so I wanted to get it out there now.

Aha!

So assume a Beat Cop gets a result that can’t be true (i.e. all in that category have been identified).
Then he** must ** have got a wrong answer, but we can’t benefit from this, because the Beat Cop doesn’t ask e.g. “Is Fred a Citizen?” (when he would know that Fred was indeed a Citizen), but merely says who he is investigating.

Looks like the clock started at 7:51am my time with **brewha’s ** vote. To make it easier to remember the day will end tonight at 8pm unless you guys unvote to stop the clock.

14- Autolycus (pimmaspinner, Queuing, Menocchio, StarvingButStrong, MTS, hocow, Monkey Mench, glee, Auguecheek, ArizonaTeach, brewha, Blaster Master, Malacandra, cowgirl)

I like your careful pessimism. :slight_smile:

However, suppose we come down to just two already-suspected Mafia, plus the SK and there aren’t many Citizens left (say four).
My understanding is that the Miller can only block one Mafia, so the other can kill.
Plus the SK can kill a Citizen.
Of course the Mafia won’t win if they miss the SK, but the Town loses either way.

Next, suppose we come down to just two already-suspected Mafia, plus the SK and there are many Citizens left.
Now the SK aims for Mafia (or if the Doc is still with us, for the Doc. Or if the Miller is still there, for them.) The Mafia need to keep killing, so they might kill the Doc or Miller as well.

Either way, it’s not good for the Town. :eek:

I was under the impression that when a Miller blocks ANY Mafia that the probability of a Mafia kill is then 1/n, where n is the number of remaining Mafia.

That’s how I understand it. If there’s only two mafia left, the miller has a %50 of blocking any mafia kill.

He still hasn’t come in here yet to make a defense?

vote Autolycus