Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!)

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I tried to post from home last night, but Comcast is fucking things up in the Bay Area apparently. I don’t have much time to post from work. So let me just say two things:

  1. Fern Forest seems to be desperate to appear pro-town now that he’s accused of being the SK.

  2. I am the last Mason. I think there’s a very real danger that both Pleonast and I could get killed tonight. If that were to happen without me saying anything, no one would know the Masons were extinct, and the Mafia could potentially pose as one of us unopposed.

  3. (Our three weapons are…) Vote Autolycus.

I think it is far better for Pimaspinner to announce.

At present there are many more Citizens than Mafia / SK (probably 23 to 6). Therefore risking all Beat Cops investigating the same person means they are likely to both get a Citizen. We need to cats our net wide.
Also suppose Pima is investigating the same suspect for the second time to improve his chances. Why would we want to risk the Beat Cops also checking that person?

Fern Forest,
I agree with Blaster Master’s analysis. Once you come up as a significant role to a Beat Cop, the odds are high that you are.

I have another rule query for NAF1138 ( :eek: , sorry there are so many!), but it’s pretty unimportant.
Do the Mafia know who the Godfather is when they first got their roles? (Obviously a sensible bunch of scum would sort that out the first night, but it would make a small difference if we had a game with a day first.)

No no, ask away, it’s why I am here. Yes, the mafia know.

I say, Pleonast - is Sturmhauke really a Mason?!

Oh, and should we draw any inferences from people who now either don’t vote for a lynch, nor give a reason?
(Both Rysto and Pleonast voted for Autolycus, then perfectly reasonably unvoted, asking for more time)

In case anyone is wondering, **Autolycus ** now has 17 votes.

Confirmed!

I’m inclined to believe you for obvious reasons, but I don’t want the day to end without **Pleonast ** both confirming your claim that you’re a mason and that there are no more.

That said, I strongly suspect at least one of you will live because if **Fern Forest ** is the SK, he’ll probably either go after a mafia (hopefully), or he’ll exact his final revenge on me; depending on which side he intends to leave his mark. I can’t imagine he’d go after a person that is likely protected… might as well make the last kill count, right?

Argh… damn simul-post. I even previewed!

Only three masons? Well, that sucks. Does anybody else think (pray) that this could possibly mean there are less mafia than the assumed nine? The rules said there could be up to six masons, and we only got half.

There was a fourth, but he was killed on the first night.

I’m also inclined to believe there are less than 9 mafia; I’ve been thinking there’s probably more like 8 (including the GF).

4 Masons. Captain Carrot was a Mason, too.

That’s an interesting thought.

I think it is important to have game balance. Given we know of at least 1 Detective and 1 Beat Cop on the Town’s side, I would have thought at least 8 Mafia would be needed?

P.S. Sorry if I’m posting a lot. :o My term restarts next week and I have meetings and paperwork most of the weekend.

Whoops, my mistake. That’s right, four.

I thought this was interesting. Maybe no meaning to it at all, but…

People who have not voted for** Autolycus:**

Jsexton - said he was onboard with the plan in post #2410, but hasn’t cast a vote yet
Fretful Porpentine - has posted thoughts on SK, but no vote
Kat
Lakai - PROBABLE MAFIA
Pygmy Rugger - PROBABLE MAFIA
Rysto - voted, then unvoted to allow more time for discussion
**Pleonast ** - voted, then unvoted to allow for more time for discussion

And if course Autolycus. :smiley:

Wow, this game sure changes fast, doens’t it? Now that this is the case, I retract my argument that pima shouldn’t announce. Keeping the Masons hidden from the mob was my only point, and I had assumed there were at least two remaining since none had spoken up yet.

Do you really think I need to vote for Auto at this time? :rolleyes:

I said I was going to hold off my vote because he needed some time to defend himself. He hasn’t, but I didn’t see any point in voting now, the clocks already started and there’s not a real chance of him dropping below 10 in the next few hours.

Well, I could vote for Autolycus, but it seems kind of pointless – unless we’re going for the sudden-death 24-vote majority. Let me know if you want me to.

I think Fern will go after one of the town power roles if he is the SK.So assuming we have a Miller out there, they really need to block Fern tonight.

There was good conversation going on, and no need to start the clock. Now, with ~17 votes, there’s not much point.

But sure, lynch autolycus, just to make it official.

OK, I see the last mason claimed. I’m not sure that was the right play, since I would have loved for a scum to try counterclaiming Sturm if Pleo died. But cest la vie.

Also, one note in case I die tonight. Queuing is being treated as cleared, and I’m not sure why. I guess it’s because of his perceived association with Gadarene, but I’ll remind you that there’s no way for non-mason townies to have associations. It could very well be that he was buddying up to Gadarene in order to look town. Also, recall his posts around the time he was nearly lynched. His theories then made perfect sense from the perspective of a mafioso who knew that Gadarene was town. You’ll recall that I proposed vigging Queuing if Gadarene turned up town. I still think that was right. Few of you trust me, but keep this in mind after I die, ok?

All right. Could you please outline what it is about me that is so “strong or justifiable?” I have responded to every suspicion raised about me and have received no feedback whatsoever. If it’s ‘cause of my going after sturmhauke on the first friggin’ day, I responded to that. Twice. Look it up. If it’s anything else, please lay it out so I can respond to it. I’m getting tired of this.