Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!)

So these are just preliminary results but look at these posts of Storyteller’s:

post 854

post 880

post 1731

post 1787

post 1864

post 2842

Do you guys get scum from these? I sure as hell don’t. In fact I think some of these posts are just excellent, and I wish we had listened to him earlier. I get a very firm town reading from this. By looking at his posts he has sky-rocketed to the top of my trust list.

Honestly, Brewha where did you get your FOS from? What “didn’t he say”?

In light of this I am going to vote to

lynch pygmy rugger

My scum list:

Pygmy Rugger
Monkey Mensch
Malacandara
Brewha

I have had the bottom 3 of my list for a while now. I have stated why I think Malacandra is scum. I will do the analysis of Monkey Mensch next.

Answer me this. Why do you do such a thourough, thoughtful, and time consuming analysis of several other posters, and yet vote to lynch me "because story said so? Especially considering that I wasn’t on the bottom three of your list. And why are you doing (hehe, doing) MM next, if you’re already voting for me?

Wow. so much going on. I didn’t realize that day broke already! My job has just gotten exceedingly crazy so this is the first time I’ve been able to check in and I’m far from caught up.

I was so certain about MadTheSwine and I feel really bad about it. I was also suspicious of **glee **but she turned out town too so my instincts badly need a re-tune. I’m leaning towards Pygmy Rugger but his defense of MadTheTownie makes me lean a bit less. But storyteller has been taking words out of my mouth all game so his/her endorsement makes me lean a bit more. Hm. All this leaning is making me dizzy.

I can’t do a read through now so I’ll put down some quick thoughts, pending a full analysis:

  • I’d still like to know why everyone wanted to lynch Aguecheek, I still don’t get it
  • Let us not have any more bandwagons, it makes it too easy for the mafia to hide out and help us lynch one townie or another
  • I think the lurkers need some serious investigating, because we seem to quite often go after the active posters who all turn out to be townie

Nothing posts: 176, 219, 266, 454, 504, 834, 1312, 1645, 1647, 1650, 1680, 1919, 2241, 2322, 2511, 2598, 2673, 2780, 2896, 2949
Vote counts: 1190, 1192

post 252 -tries some analysis of whom was killed first night, says only OAOW had said anything

post 316 -quotes me, talking about why chrisk should have potentially been believed on the first day, and agrees with me, FOS Enfant do to EF saying people who post a lot/analaysis seemed to have big roles last game

post 349 -asks for analysis and lots of it, to force scum to talk and maybe lie

post 420 -quotes EF, who had answered his FOS, says EF didn’t address actual content, asks for a reason not to lynch EF

post 438

[QUOTE]
-vote count
-trust distrust list
Trust: sturmhauke:, rysto, chrisj
Distrust: aguecheek, FF, Menecchio, queuing
-votes for EF due to his concerns not being addressed

post 470 -defends auto, basically saying I don’t care how he posts, only what he posts, asks for clarification of auto’s actions

post 504 -12 hour countdown vote

post 590 very much against lynching of sturmhauke
-says will be away for a while (explains his lack of posting for 300 or so)

post 854 very large analysis post, mentions numerous players, you might want to read it yourselves
-his conclusion: That at least one of the people who has called for the lynching of sturm, Auto, or chrisk is probably Mafia, and that cross-referencing that list with the list of people who did vote for Enfant Terrible might produce useful information.

post 880 -follows up on his conclusion, comes up with 2 names: Menecchio and FCOD
-votes FCOD ( a known scum)
-again, I think this is worth reading

post 891 -responds to post by lakai, asking why he thinks sturm. Auto and chrisk were all town (which they all turned out to be). Says he didn’t like the 1st day attempt to get sturm, thinks auto is either town or worse player ever, and no real reason for chrisk
-wants FCOD dead, not ready to vote for Pleonast

post 892 -request for Pygmy to explain himself

post 939 -asks Gadarene to explain why he doesn’t like post 854, slight FOS at gadarene

post 940 corrects a vote count by FF, reiterates vote for FCOD

post 949 - answers Gadarene accusations, very well I might add, slightly stronger FOS but not official

post 1093 -unvotes FCOD as BM had claimed

post 1096 -quotes me, explains that he doesn’t think the mafia will be acting in cahoots that much

post 1215 -agrees with gadarene, as well as my idea to kill one from each side of the day 2 debacle, no vote yet though

post 1265 -says he is convinced of my towniness
-votes gadarene
-suggest the conditional vig kill by BM

post 1334 -quotes BM, when BM FOS hocow as SK, and wants to know why

post 1353 -in the midst of Zuma’s stubbornness about BM getting a choice on vig kill, he becomes very suspicious of him, and votes to vig kill

post 1553 votes for plan 1 of the conditional plans, which was to not vig kill me, but vig kill JSexton ( I believe)

post 1731
-another very long analysis post, I urge you to read it
-he says he re-read the thread, and comes up with the following, names 10 people town. Of these 10, 6 are confirmed town by death, 1 by DET (we think), only himself, rysto and myself are not confirmed (but highly believed to be town)
-says he will come back with more of a follow-up on the ones who aren’t town in his mind
-votes FCOD again

post 1787 -another long bit of analysis, read it
-answers accusations from pimaspinner very well, again confirms desire to vote for FCOD

post 1792 -FOS pimaspinner, reasons given are good, but no vote yet, stil on FCOD

post 1845 -quotes fretful, questions his reasoning mostly about BM being mafia, and him wanting to kill JSexton because of it

post 1852 -JSexton defends fretful as forcing BM to kill one of his own, doesn’t buy it but now understands it

post 1864 -another very lengthy analysis, read it
-scum from here are: FCOD (yes he was), pimaspinner (nope), pygmy (unknown)

post 1918 -unvotes FCOD, votes for pima, but happy to vote for either
-quotes rysto, who wonders why he hadn’t voted for pima yet

post 1962 -again answers rysto
-vig kill for FCOD

post 2434 -congrats to pima are given, cautions us to slow down, and says if auto and fern are scum then he is very wrong. (we know they were town now)

post 2540 -votes for auto now, due to him still not making a defense

post 2551 -quotes and disagrees with pygmy about announcing beat cop investigation

post 2556 -rule clarification as well as agreement with me about allowing pima to investigate who they want

post 2722 -another long post answering all questions asked of him, a suggestion of thinking outside the box basically, and asking to slowdown

post 2767 -in the middle of the math fight (which I still doesn’t really matter, but I digress  ), agreess with me in it not mattering that much, and asks for more participation in the last day

post 2842 -another big analysis post, mostly about the math fight, FOS’s the following:
Aguecheek, Fretful Porpentine, ArizonaTeach, and pima as well as glee for bringing it up again, due to them all voting for Malacandara or I. Finds Pygmy rugger the most suspicious, and votes for pygmy rugger

post 2889 -basically says we may as well believe the cop claims. Also questions why hocow tried again to stir up the math fight
-leaves vote for pygmy

post 2900 -unvotes pygmy, votes for MTS, also posts a vote count, says he doesn’t want to kill either me or malacandra

Voting for you because Storyteller did. I have just finished reading all of his posts and he seemed right fairly often. Particularly on that FCOD call that he did quite early in the game, and then wouldn’t let go of it. He is doing the same with you, so I am going to listen this time.

I am doing MM (and here is your bottle of tequila, don’t worry I will be gentle) next because I was planning on doing him if I lived in the morning, and I already have his posts all ready. That is the only reason. Don’t worry, I will do you after him, ok?

User Name Posts

Queuing 239 — investigated by claimed beat cop, came up SK/Citizen
Rysto 112
Malacandra 98
Kat 95
Pygmy Rugger 86
Lakai 78 ---- investigated by known beat cop, came up citizen
brewha 76
MonkeyMensch 73
storyteller0910 67
StarvingButStrong 63
ArizonaTeach 63
Menocchio 62 ---- Probable DET Crumb - Citizen or GF
Pleonast 61---- Mason
Fretful Porpentine 56
Aguecheek 54 ---- Cop Claim
hocow 40
sturmhauke 35 — Mason
cowgirl 33

I wouldn’t be upset if someone else did a few of these people.

Queuing, I just conceeded that my suspiscions of Story could very well be wrong. If you bear with me for a moment I would like to make my case against Lakai. It may seem that I’m throwing around accusations, but, like Story said, it is good to get other people in the spotlight to see how they react.

Mmmm, tequila. You’ve said you’re going to be gentle, and if you promise to use lube I promise not to tense up.

I know. I was just wondering thats all. I agree its an excellent idea to throw the spotlight on a everyone. See if they run like cockroaches or stand tall. Personally I would love if your analysis of Lakai contained post numbers/links/page numbers. Thanks :).

On preview, well that bottle was suppose to be MM’s because he was next, but don’t worry, I have plenty. Fine, I will use some lube…even though not taking it like a man is a scum tell!

I took a look at the list of people that did not vote for Suburban Plankton as a place to start. Lakai seems to have stayed completely under the radar for me. I went back and reread his posts knowing more about who is and is not scum.

381
FOS MTS, Efant Terrible, and Chrisk - all confirmed town.

636
Votes Pleonast - mason

828
Pushes for the rest of the town to vote Pleonast
1064
Long explanation. Ends with the push for the deaths of Pleonast and Blaster Master.
1068
Votes Blaster Master

1794
Votes Pimaspinner - our recently deceased cop

2012
Goes along with the lynching of Flying Cow of Doom, but only with the cavaet that hocow or Pimaspinner get vig killed depending on the outcome

2066
Votes to lynch Fern Forest and vig kill Flying Cow of Doom. Sure FCOD dies with this vote, but a townie goes with him and we waste our vig kill.

2194
Claims it is too late to kill Suburban Plankton and pushes for votes to lynch Fern Forest.
Then I saw post 2629 which rebutts accusations made by Blaster Master in post 2497 - poorly I might add.

If you don’t trust my FOS of Lakai, take a look at what our dearly departed Vigiliante thinks of him.

I, for one, Vote Lakai

Crap, My coding is screwed up. I’ll try another post - but trust me those posts do say I what I say they say.

Then I saw post [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8460121&postcount=2629]2629 which rebutts accusations made by Blaster Master in post [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8456721&postcount=2497]2497 - poorly I might add.

If you don’t trust my FOS of Lakai, take a look at what our dearly departed Vigiliante thinks of him.

These are the two posts that matter the most. Blaster Master already called attention to most of the posts that I attempted to link to in his post 2497 (which should work now).

Dammit Dammit Dammit

Lets try again. Stupid non editing

::shakes fist at NAF::

Just look at thisone again.

Feel free to look at the others I listed if you want more than my brief summary.

I went through all of Blaster Master’s accuasations and he has all the posts I listed execept for 2012 and 2066. He also has a few I didn’t list.

How did Lakai live this long? String him up I tells ya!

I think Blaster Master wasn’t entirely trusted at the time he made his case against Lakai, but we now know whose side he was on.

While I wait for **brewha **to get his coding together I will say I strongly agree with this.

Vote Pygmy Rugger for now.

I already answered Blaster Master’s post here. If there is anything in there that you don’t like please say so and I will explain.

Could someone please refresh my memory about why Rysto is so generally trusted? I’m not saying he shouldn’t be, I’m just trying to remember the reasoning behind it.

Lakai, don’t try and brush this off because of my coding issues. Blaster Master posted almost exactly the same thing as I attempted to - except he did it over 500 posts ago. I don’t know why we didn’t listen then. I case people don’t want to deal with links, just read the above.

Sure, that worked fine at the time. But, we didn’t know if we could trust Blaster Master or not. We also didn’t know that every person you voted to lynch was town and that every person you defended was mafia.

It seems a bit clearer now.

Blaster Master lays suspicion on me for defending Autolycus. **Auto ** turned out to be town. The only other uncertain person we did not know about was Fern Forest. Was that it? The fact that Fern Forest turned out town, was that the clincher for you?

It seems a little suspicious of you that you ignore the fact that I was right about defending **Autolycus **and still say that every person I defended was mafia.