Hey, you all don’t mind if I use the same formatting I used in the Werewolf thread, do you? Except I’ll add post numbers and links.
Fine by me. Brewha, prepare to be probed!
Married man, now. Naughty Naughty. My postings, however, are an open book.
I’m not sure why, but something about the logic of this post is nagging me.
Anyway, feel free to give me an assignment. With the weekend coming, I’ll actually have time.
Finally, the argument against Monkey Mensch, coupled with **brewha’s ** “misremembering” I find veerrrrry interesting.
Kat, use whatever you feel like. It doesn’t matter to me how you present your information. Just so long as we can verify it with links. Verifiability is all that matters.
cowgirl want to do kat?
From what I can tell that leaves StarvingButStrong, Rysto, Queuing (I pity the person who has to do me 
) and Menecchio. That is the unconfirmed people at least.
On preview, ArizonaTeach how about StarvingButStrong?
Which leaves just 3.
I read everything you wrote. You made your case, and then told everyone to look at Blaster Master’s arguments against me. I thought they were not much different from yours and said that I answered them in a previous post. I then asked if you had any problem with my that post and you said:
Like I said, the only things that we know about Blaster Master’s FOS of me now that we didn’t before are that Auto and Fern Forest are town.
How was I supposed to know that this was your real problem. If you had mentioned it before like I asked you to I would have answered it.
Even if I was flushing out masons, a network theory is an explanation for why I wanted to lynch someone.
It matters because you said I only defended mafia.
I wanted to see if your suspicion of me was simply ignorant or made with malice.
The way you read suspicion into my posts makes me conclude it was malice.
Unvote Pygmy Rugger. Vote brewha.
Q, I’ll take one if you want it. Prolly have it done tomorrow evening or so.
Now I understand how people have so many links that all link to the same post. :smack:
I finished cowgirl’s post history and will post it tomorrow after I fix the links.
RE: the MonkeyMensch issue. I’m not misrembering anything.
here the vote is 9 Fern Forest 8 Suburban Plankton.
Here MonkeyMensch unvotes our Doc.
And Here MonkeyMensch Votes for Suburban Plankton. This ties the vote at 9-9.
After that post, Arizona follows and Unvotes FF and votes SP making it 10-8.
I don’t see how that can be viewed any other way. I’m not saying that this exonerates Monkey, it just makes me less suspicious.
As far as Lakai being invetigated and coming up town, that means very little to me. Cops are going to get some wrong.
Lakai I did not vote for you in malice. I followed your posts and didn’t like what they said. You seem to be the most likely candidate for mafia to me at this time.
Sure thing, giant beer.
I mean, no problem. I’ll do Kat (as long as she promises not to make me sneeze … I’m quite allergic). I can’t finish it until tomorrow, tho, for some reason the people who sign my paycheques want me to work today.
Sure how about Rysto?
I would say the deadline for getting this done should be sunday evening. The day ends Tuesday at 8:30am pacific, which would be 12:30pm Atlantic, noon if your a newfie, 11:30am eastern, 10:30am Central, 9:30am mountain. If you don’t live in North America, I have no idea.
Brewha I suppose I take issue with the idea of “one of the first to sway the vote”. He was not one of the first to sway the vote, he just happened to be the guy who put SP into a tie. I do see what you are saying however.
I also agree that coming up town by a cop does not mean much, however it means enough that I don’t think our focus should be on the people who have been investigated and came up golden.
I really hope that this new plan of investigating everyone’s posts actually does something, and not just wastes our time. We really need to get a scum this time, if for no other reason then morale. Plus I hate to fucking lose.
2- Pygmy Rugger - (storyteller, Queuing)
1- brewha - (lakai)
1- Lakai - (brewha)
My point is that if MonkeyMensch were mafia, I doubt he would have voted for Plankton. The votes and suspicion for both were pretty even. He would have known that Plankton was mafia and that Fern Forest was not mafia. There would have been no suspicion cast on him had he voted Fern Forest instead.
It just seems like an unMafia thing to do.
OK, he didn’t do any vote swaying. I see how you take issue with that wording. I meant that his vote was the first that took Fern Forest out of the lead.
Hi all.
I’m assuming that the Mafia got Pima and the SK glee. But it could easily be the other way 'round. If a cop gets lucky and investigates the SK there’s a much better chance of an accurate ID than with mere scum. Just thought I’d mention it.
I’m voting aguecheek for the moment because that gallows steps claim still rings hinky and then you chose to investigate queuing! I may be sniffing glue here, and I’m not, but queuing is doing yeoman’s work with those summations (and thanks to the others who have volunteered to do more of those) and is not much a suspect. Why not look at somebody a little more suspicious or at least low posting?
I’m fine with Rysto’s absence with a pleasant easy pace for the day. If we have a nice reasoned discourse he shouldn’t miss but one daytime’s activities.
See ya this evening.
I feel like Frank the Tank yelling out WE"RE GOING STREAKING!
Then taking off to the quads naked - by myself .
Doesn’t anyone else see what I’m saying about Lakia? Does anyone else buy his defense?
Can anyone give me better reasoning to vote for someone else?
Where is everyone? We still got 18 players, but only a half a dozen seem to be vocal.
I’m taking off for the weekend in about 3 hrs. I probably won’t check the Dope again until Sun night.
Old cowgirl.
25 149 319 - No Value.
339 - Was concerned that we were FOSing people who post lots of analysis and asked what is the point of doing so if you are going to get FOSed.
483 - Big analysis post. Conveys her trust of Auto, Sturm, chrisk, Pleonast and Gadarene. She expressed curiosity about MadTheSwine’s hard-on for Winston. She also mistrusted CaerieD, Queuing and Enfant Terrible. She votes for Enfant.
676 - Her good bye post. 
Smitty.
6, 88 – No value.
244 – Votes glee because of random.org.
290 – Explains to glee that his vote was only random.
355 – Suspicious of Enfant Terrible.
417 – Explains his suspicions of Enfant, Auto and glee.
430, 431, 443, 449, 459 – Setting up a spreadsheet.
583 – Updates his spreadsheet. Says “I think we need to take a good, hard look at who made bandwagon votes on Enfant Terrible - that is, votes with no reasoning behind them. These are far more likely to be scum pushing for a lynch.”
994 – Votes for Gadarene. He say’s Gadarene should not ask to be killed if he is town and also blames Gadarene for role claiming so early.
New cowgirl.
2298 - Comes into the game at night.
2301 and 2327 – Says Moo.
2439 - Big analysis post. Expresses her suspicion of me, MadtheSwine and Pygmy Rugger.
2440 - Makes minor correction of her post in 2439.
2461 - Wonders why FCOD would say he blocked Malacandra twice.
2474 - reposts the reasoning for suspicions about Pygmy Rugger from post 2439 and adds a summary.
2516 - Wonders if Auto is doing anything but wasting time.
2533 - Voted for Auto because she does not see a point in waiting.
2610 – Reasons for suspecting and voting for Auto.
2682 – Night post
2713 - Explains her reasons for being suspicious of MadTheSwine.
2796 – Votes for MadTheSwine and asks about his aggression towards the Detective so early in the game.
2801 – Vote count. Says “I expect the votes today will come flying fast and furious, so can we post ongoing post counts? I wouldn’t be surprised to have to switch my vote once a bandwagon gets more persuasive (and I don’t think I’m the only one) so I’d like to keep an eye on it. Twould be a shame for someone to be lynched with only three or four votes … which is the way things seem to be going so far.”
2808 – Defends her FOS of Pygmy Rugger.
2812 – Defends her use of old posts as evidence.
2814 - Wants to hear MadtheSwine defend himself.
2828 – Says that MadtheSwine’s answer was good and unvotes him.
2841 – Defends herself against Pygmy Rugger.
2860 - Defends herself against Pygmy Rugger again.
2879 – Votes for Malacadra and provides her reasoning.
2893 - Wonders why people are suspicious of Augecheek.
2898 – Switches vote back to MadTheSwine.
2912 - Asked if we thought about why the mafia killed the people they killed.
2921 - Makes small point about glee. Says “Come to think of it, didn’t glee also point out that he was trusted by Masons - as if to imply that he was among them - and then Pleonast made a point of distancing him/herself from it? (Please correct me if I’m wrong, my memory has been faulty before.) If true, glee looks mighty suspicious to me now too.” She then says she does not have time to look that up.
2947 – Night post.
3023 – What’s important here is that she says:
“ - I’d still like to know why everyone wanted to lynch Aguecheek, I still don’t get it
- Let us not have any more bandwagons, it makes it too easy for the mafia to hide out and help us lynch one townie or another
- I think the lurkers need some serious investigating, because we seem to quite often go after the active posters who all turn out to be townie”
3060 – Says that she is willing to do whoever Queuing wants.
3069 – Says she’ll do Kat. 
You want my opinion?
I don’t love his defense no, but neither have I taken a lot of time to look over the case presented. Plus he did have a cop investigate him and he came up citizen. That is not definite we all know that, however since there are probably 5 scum still left and 1 SK, I don’t consider him a priority. That is why I won’t vote for him now.
hmm…isn’t one of the only guarantees when it comes to a cop investigations is Vig=mafia and GF=town? Hell, one more reason beat cops are useless (no offense to the beat cops…well, not much offense…)
So Lakai what do you think of cowgirl?
Personally I think it is a good idea to not just give us posts, but also what you think after reading them. I can see a downside to this, that being doing so might influence the thoughts of others to much. However the upside, that being forcing you to give your opinion on who you analyzed is more beneficial in the long run.
Ideally what I would like to see is we get all these reports done by sunday afternoon/evening, we all take monday to read them all, and then everyone gives their opinion on everyone else. Except for the fact that this will take a fair amount of time for each of us, I see no downside to this. If you are town, why wouldn’t you want to do this? If you are scum, well I see it being easier to catch you in a lie. I think, if this is done, we will improve our odds greatly of at least not having the scum beat us. I see no real way of getting the SK beyond luck.
What say all of you?
That sounds like a great plan to me. I won’t be around tomorrow or most of Sun anyway, but I think by Mon we should be able to start making rational decisions on who can be trusted.
I’ve done background checks on MonkeyMensch, Storyteller and Lakai. I’m leaning toward MonkeyMensch and Storyteller as town and I believe Lakai is scum.