Nothing posts: 34, 188, 192, 574, 605, 1013, 1076, 1337, 1571, 1767, 2130, 2288, 2432, 2662, 2688, 2747, 2777, 2786, 2859, 2972, 2974, 2979, 3028
post 602 -FOS chrisk for wanting to do trust lists again and votes chrisk
post 780 -talks about BM, and not wanting to jump on that bandwagon quite yet, says can’t tell re: gadarene and pleonast, leaves vote with chrisk
post 784 -quotes BM (who said its odd that the game punishes those who talk a lot, as well as defending the FOS of PR), PR wonders why he felt it necessary to defend and says its making it harder for him to not switch to BM
post 785 -quotes FF (who talks about absence of glee, Winston and storyteller) says he thinks they said they wouldn’t be available for next 48 hours and should be given a chance (is this one of the errors PR is accused of? 2 confirmed, 1 probable townie)
post 788 -responds about some having IRL commitments
-in favour of 12 hour countdown
post 789 -a post about 12 hour countdowns, and not starting them to early, comes out against this sort of, as he thinks its “squeezing blood from a turnip” and votes will jump around to much leading to votes to trusted people, Scum should be found by logic and guts and shouldn’t try to artificially delay majority vote
(Something of an odd post IMO)
post 915 -claims going to reread thread and look for the posts in which he thought posters said they would be away
post 919 -quotes a number of posts from different players, inc MOD for some reason, about skimming thread, and leaving, and working. This was in response to MTS who FOS’d him for the 3 players who would be away, who never said such a thing
post 920 -posts from Family Feud thread, which talks about who will be away in that game. He is also part of that, and I am assuming this is meant as see I may have confused this thread with that one post. I find this a little odd as well
post 924 -quotes Lakai who had found it odd that he was quoting from family feud thread, answers again with it was simple confusion and assumptions
post 958 -quotes glee who voted for PR. PR questions this vote as glee was one of the people who he had said would be gone, and who MTS thought the reason PR said so was because it had been said on the Mafia boards and PR had mixed them up
post 976 -quotes me, and my explanation as to why I was going after BM day 2. PR agrees with me and votes for BM here
post 981 -unvotes chrisk, and gives reasons: thinks the cop claim is bogus, and because JSexton will taking over for him.
-this unvote had to happen anyway, as he had voted for BM
post 1046 -quotes glee who voted for him not because of MTS theory but another mistake, asks what was that mistake? From re-reading the thread this mistake appears to be the samething that MTS said, but not the theory, which is a little odd IMO
post 1119 -quotes lakai about the DR self-protecting, and says it is scary, and asks BM is he knows who the DOC is. (I don’t really get this post)
post 1134 -quotes me, talks about who should be killed when in day 2, and unvotes BM
post 1220 -still in day 2 fiasco, quotes gadarene and talks about a riddle which means little, also quotes SP who outlined the sides on day 2, and talks that pleonast might be the best vote, but still votes for no one
post 1223 -quotes gadarene, still in midst of day 2, and agrees that splitting the killings is the best, and votes to lynch pleonast
post 1244 -quotes Zuma who says lets get you (referring to me) to 10 votes and then talk, so PR obliges and unvotes pleonast for me and vig kill zuma (this was after role claim by pleonast)
post 1276 -quotes pleonast who says why kill zuma? It was started by me. PR answers it’s the 1 from each side thing, and VIG kills conditional vote of if I am scum get gadarene, if not get zuma or pleonast
post 1279 -quotes zuma who says let me martyr myself and move onto whom BM should kill, PR says he sees no reason to do anything but what was in post 1276
post 1317 -quotes zuma re: VIG kill stubbornness, tells BM who to kill
post 1390 -seems unhappy with day 2 and how 2 masons and the VIG were outed, says it was because of prolonging day 2, and says self-sacrifice is best for group
post 1406 -quotes JSexton who was not understanding the self-sacrifice thing about masons. PR answers he had never played game before but that importance of masons was keeping role secret until end game, and how now the mafia knows 3 power roles which is bad for town
post 1451 -unvotes queuing, votes Gadarene
post 1479 -continues with JSexton on roles of masons
post 1499 -the argument about masons continues
post 1501 -more mason stuff, and says has confidence in masons
post 1520 -More mason mentions, with a quote from BM that explains PR’s point
post 1557 -a vote for BM’s plan number 2
post 1756 -quotes sturmhauke, who had FOS’d him because of his voting pinging around all of the bandwagons of day 2. He explains his voting as follows:
Chrisk: for trying to expose the cop, but when it was decided that JSexton deserved a chance, he switched
BM: felt he was suspicious until role claim and switched to one of the 2 sides formed
Pleonast: voted him because of which side he was on and felt gadarene was town
Queuing: reluctantly voted for me when pleonast claimed
Gadarene: changed to him to end day sooner, but that he was town and info could be gained by his death
post 1757 -quotes ArizonaTeach, who had said he was trying to keep his head down while the town had an advantage. PR wants to know why he would do such a thing.
post 1760 -quotes MTS, who votes for him, and PR asks why. He again states the reason he wanted to end day 2 was because of the number of accusations flying around, and that they were random, and believed the best source of info would be lynching at that time
post 1798 -votes for pimaspinner because he doesn’t like the reasoning behind pima FOSing Rysto
post 1811 -quotes SP, who wanted to know why it would be better for VIG to kill SK then SK be lynched
-PR answers because it would confirm BM, and that the lynch has bad odds of catching
post 1814 -quotes SP again who says the SK should be lynched ASAP (this coming from a known scum, who would rather have us waste a lynch on the SK then them waste a night kill), PR responds that it may at some point be necessary for the town to kill BM, right now he should be directed to go after the SK, at least for tonight
post 1838 -quotes BM, who had found SP post very suspicious (the one quoted above), and PR doesn’t understand how BM thought PR was agreeing with SP ( I am on PR’s side here, as I don’t see it either)
post 1916 -quotes and is confused by a post of FF’s which talks about scum potentially unveiling to keep the SK win away, and PR unvotes pima
post 2011 -votes FCOD, and might as well get clock started
post 2131 -unvotes FCOD, votes JSexton, vig FCOD
post 2220 -quotes BM, unvotes JSexon, votes SP
post 2433 -quotes MTS, about mason’s claiming, agrees with me that masons should not claim
post 2438 -explains why he hasn’t voted for auto yet, to keep the discussion going
post 2488 -quotes Cowgirl, who had FOS’d him because he was dropped from the day 2 list of conditional kills and because he was voting for BM. He answers by showing the people he was grouped in with for voting for BM 3-4 of them are confidently town ( I am including myself in this to make the 4) and how does that prove anything (it doesn’t but it doesn’t prove he is town either). Also explains that some of the reason for the voting for him on day 2 was because he had thought people were out of town and was wrong, leading to the suspicion of messing up the boards (most of the people he had screwed up on are confirmed townies). Cowgirl also questioned him about the credit he gave to BM re: conditional vigs when it was starvingbutstrong, PR corrects cowgirl about what he said, he actually said the vig plan not idea
post 2546 -disagrees that pima should announce whom he will investigate, as well as commenting on not outing masons
post 2549 -quotes pima who puts a list of whom they will be investigating, and PR likes the list better
post 2552 -quotes Arizona, who FOS’d him for not wanting cop to announce whom they will be investigating. PR seems to be worried about pima investigating a mason, appeals to JSexton
post 2554 -quotes storyteller who comes out in favour of pima announcing to allow the other beat cop to do as they please. PR says ok, so long as it’s a list of suspects, again to avoid outing a mason
post 2558 -quotes me, who had asked him about why he is waiting for JSexton, reply is because of his experience
post 2576 -Sturmhauke announced, and PR retracts his statements about pima announcing and now believes he should
-also quotes pima, who had FOS’d Lakai and PR for not voting for auto, and PR responds is it really necessary for me to? PR does not vote for auto here
post 2588 -does vote for auto now, as to not hold up the process
post 2691 -comments about how it was a bad night, and slightly FOSes Pima for getting 2 citizens killed
post 2731 -quotes fretful, and says yes that is what I wanted to say but better about previous post
post 2753 -quotes rysto, who had FOS’d low post count players, agrees with rysto and says the thread has slowed down enough so unable to keep up no longer an excuse
post 2776 -wonders why malacandra is so fired up about my FOS
post 2792 -agrees that there is no reason to reinvestigate lakai at this time, quotes starvingbutstrong
post 2806 -FOS’s cowgirl (and quotes her), mostly about old conversations
post 2813 -quotes Cowgirl, PR is mostly talking about how we have information we didn’t have back then, so its hard to look at old posts
post 2831 -votes for cowgirl, as he suspects that she is trying to start bandwagons
post 2858 -quotes storyteller, who had voted for PR, PR explains that he found cowgirl’s going back to old posts suspicious, particularly on the first day with MTS and random FOSes, and he quotes cowgirl again when she said she had reasons to suspect everyone and is putting out ideas, PR says this is also a random FOS and why is it ok for to do it now, but not MTS way back?
post 2862 -claims all posts made before BM claims are irrelevant for 2 reasons; it would have been dumb for the mafia to show all allegiance then, and he doesn’t want to go back to read that because he was confused
post 2865 -quotes aguecheek, who had claimed and investigated me and said I was the Sk
-unvotes cowgirl and votes aguecheek
post 2935 -quotes MTS about who cops should investigate and that aguecheek should post first, PR agrees that Aguecheek should announce first
post 3022 -wants to know why I voted for him
So what do I get out of this?
Here is a player who is very concerned about masons. He has many discussions and slight arguments about masons. I am not sure why. There are a few reasons that I can think of. He is a new player, and wants to understand the game, and in particulalr just how valueable masons are. I can understand this. Masons seem to be one of the constants of this game, yet their actual power is questionable. A more suspicious viewing of it could be that he had been FOS’d a few times, and could have been setting up a fake mason claim. A fake mason claim is of little use, however it does kill a mason (most likely) for a scum. They way this game has gone this could be a worthwhile trade in the eyes of scum. PR is constantly telling the masons to not show themselves.
The other thing I noticed is a lack of "nothing"posts. The vast majority of PR’s posts have some sort of content, be them votes, FOS or what have you. Also a lot are about masons. I am unsure what this means. There isn’t a lot of indepth analysis, or lists of who he thinks is scum, but there aren’t a lot of fluff, or giant posting breaks either.
Another I noticed is that one of the reasons PR seems to have made a number of potential scum lists was because of an error in regards to who would be away, when they never said such a thing in this thread, and how he may have become thread confused. A problem with this is the 3 people he said (glee, winston and storyteller) 2 are confirmed town, so this theory falls apart somewhat.
So in conclusion, ummm I am not sure. I find some things scummy, and some things town. Of course this would be just how the scum would want to play. However due to my not being sure, I believe I am going to
unvote Pygmy Rugger and
lynch Monkey Mensch who in my reading still seems to be scum to me. The most likely choice I can see so far.
(Not unusual for me, especially in this game.)
I joke, I joke. What I mean is you have a large percentage of fun posts (if you prefer). While this is a game, and is meant to be fun, the game is about catching scum, not talking about drinking at night. I find this defense a very easy one to make, “Oh I am just having fun, relax” while not addressing the main concern at all.