Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!)

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Huh? So I was the only one who thought BM was scum? So my vote now counts for 10?

JSexton? Again I was the only one who thought he was scum?

You sir are giving me far to much credit. I may have lead the BM bandwagon, but I sure as hell didn’t led the JSexton one.

So they are. Not sure what that proves. Can’t deny they are dead. However I FOS’d Gadarene day 1, and then worked with him on day 2, so not real sure why he is on your list/

Hmm, context anyone? This post was done before claiming. Nor did we know JSexton was the Doc. I really don’t mind answering all of your questions, but how about a little context and stop with the exaggerations and outright lies, ok?

That lousy context problem again. Maybe you should go back and read the thread, or at least day 2 and find out when I said those things. not just that I said them. Plus I didn’t realize that we knew storyteller or hocow was town.

How do you know that?

Again, check your timeline. I did not know Zuma was a mason at the time.

Please, before you make an argument check your facts. You have taken all of these posts out of context, assuming knowledge that we have now that we didn’t have then, and blaming me for it.

Didn’t you get upset about cowgirl doing this very thing?

Hmm, what I get out of that is since we trust Zuma and Pleonast now, but don’t trust me or gadarene, and it seems that gadarene is going down, if he is scum kill me. To each his own however.

Finally something you said makes sense. I am a bad judge of character I suppose.

At least I keep my arguments consistent, don’t jump around using one argument to defend myself and the same argument to lynch another. Nor is my vote for sale open to change at the mere worry of my own impending doom. Nor do I take posts completely out of context, call them facts and use them to lynch people.

ON preview; please do show my posts. Digest them, analyze them, just remember the context in which they were said. Also you seem to want to accuse me of things without me taking time to defend myself. Sorry, won’t do that. If you lynch me, you lynch a townsperson and inch closer to losing.

Storyteller, I agree. I agree completely. I have tried to be more quiet, but everyday there is a new attempt to lynch me. First from aguecheek, then from brewha. It is continuous, and this one led by brewha doesn’t even make sense. He is just throwing accusations out at me with no real basis except for the fact that I talk a lot, taking posts out of context and using them as evidence.

Should I not bother to defend myself? I really don’t want to keep answering him, but I feel as though I must.

Brewha, my way? Again you are crediting me with starting things I haven’t even started. Did I vote for you first? No. Are you even reading this thread or are so blind that all you see is something with a Q and you go batshit?

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This is not what you are saying. What you are saying is I am scum. And trying to prove it. Saying people have listened to me when no one really has. First exhibit; Monkey Mensch is still alive. If you don’t care which stop trying to get me killed, forcing me to talk again. Just shut the hell up, let others talk, don’t accuse people if you are going to use their defending themselves as further proof to leadership or scumminess or whatever the hell it is you think.

Have some damn consistency in your thinking.

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Are you reading the thread? I said

That is to say that if they are still alive, they are not yet confirmed town.

Yes, our masons, vig, and doc were not confirmed when you wanted them killed. The only people that knew that they were all town would be mafia. You’ve been pretty consistent in killing off town, regardless of your defense of such actions.
You still haven’t responded to my previous post. You just called me out on being hypocritical between my actions and my words, but what about my last post where you called me out for voting for Malacandra without being sure of his scumminess, when you did exactly the same thing when you voted for me yesterday. You, in fact, put me in the position to have to vote Malacandra to stay off the noose.

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Queuing, you’re coming off like a madman. I hope others see that as well.

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Ok, time to get the ball spinning faster. I’ll be voting for whoever hasn’t voted, in order of scummiest to least (IMHO). If you don’t like it, vote. For now, vote hocow.

Would someone like to put together some voting summaries of who’s voted for who? I think that may be more worthwhile than combing through posts (but don’t stop doing that, either).

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The Vote count so far:

2- brewha - (Lakai, Queuing)
2- Queuing - (brewha, Aguecheek)
1- hocow - Pleonast)

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I am coming off like a madman? Might went to step back, and read a bit there, bucko.

I voted for you to save our cop. I said that in the post, but again you don’t read what I write. Regardless, I am done with you. You complain about me making to much noise, and then continue to attack me. I will no longer answer your posts.

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I really didn’t understand this whole line. Not that I expect an explanation anymore. It appears I ruffled some feathers and now you want to pout about it.

True, you didn’t vote for me first. Lakai did. I have already publicly FOS’d him as scum as well. I came out today swinging at you and he responds by voting for my lynching. Coincidence?

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[RP Off]

Queuing, we may be getting close to crossing the line with personal insults. I can take it as long as it’s understood it’s within the context of the game. I hope you’re not taking personally. I really am just in the spirit of the game.

[RP On]

Scum!

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Since you’re not answering brewha’s posts, I’ll ask. Even though this is from Day 2, which I detest going back to, I find both the original statement and the rebuttal rather odd. Why is it that you wanted to kill zuma, regardless of anybody elses affiliation, if we knew he was a Mason at that time? Your defence just glosses over the fact that you were still targeting zuma. It completely ignores that fact, and you simply reply to brewha’s accusation by saying that you offered your own neck if Gadarene turned up scum. Well, if you were scum, you’d have known Gadarene wasn’t before the rest of us did.

Vote Queuing.

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I’m not ready to vote yet – Pleonast, we’re only 24 hours into the ‘day’, so why should everyone vote right away? Why not wait a bit in hopes of having some new info, instead of relying on what we already know? Especially seeing as how the old level of info just resulted in another town lynch. :frowning:
One thing that I found suspicious about Queuing that I don’t think has been mentioned yet: back around Day Three he started listing which players had posted the fewest times, and urging us to start voting for them. He did this repeatedly – I counted at least four times while skimming, and there might have been more.

What’s suspicious about that? Well, at the time he started doing it, guess who was firmly ensconced at the top of the list?

Maybe he was right, or maybe it was just a great way to turn attention away from himself.
OTOH, the more I think about it, the more bothered I am by Aguecheek’s still being alive. I mean, a beat cop is an ACTIVE danger to the Mafia – why haven’t they made a priority out of getting rid of him?

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Sigh.

No feathers are ruffled. This is a game, have no fear. I didn’t want to answer you anymore because you (and others) were accusing me of talking to much. So say I will shut-up. And now I am pouting? No matter what I do or say you turn it into a scum tell. That is why I said I won’t answer you again. Its a waste of time and just adds to my post count while doing nothing productive. I swear this is the last time I will answer you :).

Holy fuck, no matter what I say you will twist it into me being scum. Ok, I get it, you think I am scum. I am not, but you are entitled to your opinion. What does Lakai voting for you have to do with me being scum?

Pygmy Rugger, I don’t remember when I said that, I don’t know the context of the post. I am not going to go through the day 2 mess again to find out. I am not scum. I have never changed the way I play the game, I have never changed what I say. I am town. Beyond that there is nothing else I can say.

FTR, I don’t think brewha is scum anymore. I am starting to think the earlier idea, said by me, said by Rysto and I think said by others, I don’t get why so many people can be so quiet. Is hocow even still alive? Hows about Fretful?

Therefore, to try to put some pressure on them I suppose I

unvote brewha
lynch fretful porpentine

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Hmm, writing a post, answering the phone and coming back to it can make you look like you are schizophrenic. FTR, the line beginning “holy fuck” was written before the above line. Lousy inability to edit (and being to dumb to preview I suppose)! Also FTR the sentiment stands however.

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You said it in post 1455, and the context was after zuma claimed Mason, which you acknowledged in that post by saying you trusted him 100%. I’m not asking you to wade through day 2, we all know it was a clusterfuck. I am, however, asking you to explain that post. I’m trying to find a different way to interpret you wanting to kill zuma, but that’s the only way I can think of.

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I understand how you feel. But look at the last few days–we ended up rushing a bunch of votes right before the end. That compresses things too much.

I’d rather have everyone have a vote out there. Then we can focus on who’s voting for who. I definitely do not want to lynch someone before the deadline.

I’d like to see a voting history of who everyone has voted for. That’s better info than the endless accusations.

BTW, NAF, what’s the number of votes to start the countdown?

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There’s 15 players left, so NAF said it was 8 votes.

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I am not sure I can. I do remember not believing Zuma, or pleonast or BM. The first sentence, how it has only been 4.5 hours leads me to believe that what I meant was IF we trust zuma and pleonast 100%, and that they could have been lieing. That there wasn’t enough time elapsed yet for a counterclaim from other masons. Of course this is stupid. All it would take would be one person to counterclaim, we kill the counterclaimer, and find out who was telling the truth. This was explained later on in the day. I think. It was explained in that day, whether it was before or after this post I have no idea. That may have been what I was thinking though. I think it was. However it was a while ago, and I don’t 100% remember. Make of that what you will.

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OK. Back, at last, from the demo job on Ceciltown. I’m going to read the day’s posts but can anyone tell me the link to the current spreadsheet? I seem to only have old busted links.

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Now, this to me is suspicious.

First off, if you’re trying the “lynch all lurkers” vote, the two people you mentioned are neither the players with the lowest post counts, nor the players who have gone without posting the longest.

Fretful’s last post was yesterday at 9:51 PM (Central Time) and there are 4 living posters with less posts (and she’s tied with Pleonast for post count); hocow’s last post was on Tuesday at 11:19 am, and she’s still beating cowgirl and sturmhauke in post count. (Okay, all the lower players have roleclaimed, but come on, one or both of Aguecheek and cowgirl are Mafia; I’d bet my chocolate chip cookies on it!)

It’s also strange to me that, after naming those two, you decided to vote for the one that has posted more, posted more recently, and who’s recent posts were more informative and useful. (Fretful did one of your post count analysis assignments, while hocow’s last post was “Shit.”)

(I’m not yet voting for you, though, because Aguecheek is. Guess I’ve joined the ArizonaTeach party of worrying about who else is voting for my suspects. :smiley: )

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In fact, based solely on my last post, and the fact that no one seems likely to help me vote for my top two suspects, I’m gonna vote for hocow.

Well, that plus the fact that looking at her past posts, she’s got a pretty high noise-to-signal ratio: 9 out of her last 25 posts in this thread are “fluff” posts.