When BM made his role claim, he admitted to killing CaerieD. Why? You wouldn’t happen to know that the Mafia put a hit on her too, would you? That would certainly explain why there were only two deaths that night.
IIRC, Blaster Master told us that after he was forced to Vig claim. I’m pretty sure it was in a four digit numbered post count, perhaps you should try looking there?
(;), it was sometime in the middle of day two)
groovy, I’ll keep an eye out.
Consider my comments withdrawn.
Holy crap, 2 hrs! I thought we had until Wed!
6- Aguecheek - (Rysto, Kat, Fretful Porpentine, MonkeyMench, Queuing, StarvingButStrong)
4- Queuing - (brewha, Aguecheek, Pygmy Rugger, Sturmhauke)
2- Pygmy Rugger - (cowgirl, stroyteller)
1- brewha - (Lakai)
1- hocow - (Pleonast)
Here we have Aguecheek voting for Queuing and Queuing voting for Aguecheek. It really seems that they are on opposite sides. Or, one of them is the SK. If Aguecheek comes up town, we really have to string up Queuing tomorrow.
The way I see it. If Aguecheek comes up town, that means that Queuing is the SK or mafia. The mafia wants to kill the SK as badly as we do at this point. If Queuing lives through the night, he has to be mafia.
If Aguecheek comes up scum and Queuing lives through the night, I still think we should consider him a threat.
As much as I hate to defend cowgirl by posting this, it’s post 2150. Some bolding mine.
I wanted to elaborate on this statement. Queuing voting for Aguecheek does not necesarily mean that he is innocent if Aguecheek comes up scum. At this point, if Aguecheek gets less votes, Queuing gets lynched. In the eyes of the mafia, it doesn’t really matter which one of them gets lynched if the lynching of a mafia member seems inevitable.
I could speculate for pages, but I guess we have to wait and see what Aguecheek turns out to be before we formulate a plan for tomorrow.
So no matter what brewha, I am scum? The way you think and accuse is still very amusing to me. Keep at it. You have a one track mind. How very nice for you.
However, as stated, I am not comfortable lynching aguecheek. He may be the cop. i don’t think he is, but what the hell?
unvote aguecheek
lynch pygmy rugger
There is one other thing that I have noticed, but I have no idea what it means. The people who put a trust list on day 1 are as follows:
Chrisk Doctor—dead
Pleonast Mason
MTS citizen—dead
BM VIG—Dead
caerieD DET— Dead
Zuma Mason —Dead
Storyteller
Queuing
Gadarene citizen
Lakai
Pimaspinner Beat cop —dead
Glee Citizen ----dead
Smitty
Fretful porpentine
FCOD Scum —dead
Starvingbutstrong
Winston smith Citizen —dead
Menecchio citizen – dead
Seems like a large number of citizens did put down a trust list, while only 1 known scum did. Why is this? Did the scum not like the idea at all? Why wouldn’t they have liked the idea? Could it be because it would lead to a lot of crumbs for citizend to follow when the inevitable happened? I don’t know. I don’t know if it means anything, but I am comfortable voting for people who didn’t make a list.
FTR my scum list:
Monkey Mensch
Pygmy Rugger
Brewha
Hocow
JSexton didn’t know whether his protection saved MadTheSwine or not, only who was protected and the fact that there was one less kill that night.
Honestly, I think it’s because known scum didn’t do much posting at all in the early days. They didn’t vote for **Enfant Terrible ** or for Blaster Master.
For the record the folks who voted for BM before his claim were
Town
pimaspinner
ArizonaTeach
Gadarene
Winston Smith
Unknown
Queuing
hocow
Pygmy Rugger
Augecheek
Lakai
So glad you’re amused. By your own accusations, I can’t trust you now. You’ve already accused me of haphazardly jumping around with my convictions. I certainly can’t change my mind now without upsetting you further.
If Aguecheek comes up town, then yes you are 100% scum in my mind. If he comes up SK or Mafia, you’ll probably drop down to 80-90%.
I can’t find evidence that **hocow ** has posted anywhere on the boards for the last several days, so I won’t replace her is she makes it in tonight and lets us know what happened.
Otherwise…dunno. If she can post twice in the next hour that would be for the best.
HOCOW! You don’t have to post content, just make 2 posts.
Brewha, please indulge a poor girl whose brain is on mafia overload today; it is entirely possible that you laid this out six pages ago and I haven’t properly absorbed it yet. What do you mean by
? Why is that? Why your conviction that Queuing is likely scum, and that the revelation of Aguecheek’s status will tell us something about it?
Earlier on you said
but that conclusion doesn’t seem valid to me. It’s probably because I’ve spent the morning reading Day 1 and Day 2 which were all, in retrospect, townies pointing at each other, with absolute certainty that the other was mafia. What other reason do you have to be so certain of this?
Thanks!
And this is why I will no longer bother answering your accusations. Your mind is made up, and no matter what I did you saw it as a scum tell. Don’t trust me, vote for me, try to get yet another bandwagon started. I no longer give a shit about what you have to say about me.
Last call everybody
Gah! I’m here. Long night at work is all. I wanted to answer Kat’s questions yesterday but was running late for work. I think I can do it in 20 min. Be right back.
Okay, my scum list is changing. Curse you **Lakai **and Pygmy Rugger, for completely confusing me. You have both done things quite suspicious and things quite helpful, so I’m going to have to wipe my slate clean of you and start again.
In the middle of the lynch-Queuing-direct-Blaster Master fiasco, I was struck by this post [my note added in parentheses]:
In the morning I will reconstruct my suspicion list from that one.
I really hate to explain this since Queuing tends to get into a hissy when I accuse him. There are several things that build up to it, but basically he is overall the most outspoken poster that is still alive. The mafia should have taken him out by now. They haven’t and there are only two possible reasons that they haven’t. He is either mafia or has been wrong on his accusations and is helping them out.
Just go back and read our arguements during the past day. I really don’t want to keep beating on this since Queuing is taking this game way too seriously.
Post 1922 is what seemed scummy to me at the time. This was actually pointed out in your analysis of her(I think?). The logic behind why she thought BM was the SK seemed faulty. More or less, why wouldn’t the “real” VIG go after BM? There may have been something else but I’m pressed for time and that is one thing that didn’t look right to me. YMMV
Also, BM is the other person who thought that I was the SK.
For what it’s worth, I vote Aguecheek for many reasons already mentioned.
Look, I’m not sure what the point of continuing this discussion is anymore, but the fact is that you are wrong about this. There is a third alternative: that the Mafia sees no good reason to night kill Queuing because the town appears to be on the verge of lynching him just about every day.
This may not be the case, but it is a possibility. That you continue to ignore the existence of this third alternative is frankly dishonest discussion.
Ah, okay. That is understandable.
I also find it strange that he was so nearly lynched, twice, during the **Blaster Master **fiasco, and managed to survive for no specific reason (except that they needed to stop the clock to decide on their vig-kill, and his posts seemed towny to everybody). But the first people to unvote him were mostly confirmed town.
There remain two kinds of players in this game: people who I am confident are town; and people who I am equally confident are town and scum. sigh