Are you serious here? You find it… suspicious… that I know who voted for whom yesterday? It, um, took me about twenty seconds to page back through the thread and see that Queuing, Lakai, and I all voted for Pygmy Rugger. This is suspicious? Why?
Why would anyone want to avoid looking at past vote records?
Point noted. I went through Lakai’s posts with a fine-tooth comb at the beginning of the Day with precisely that thought in mind, though, and I didn’t see anything convincing enough to make me want to swing the other way. He could be Mafia, for sure, but I don’t want to place my bets that way right now, when we can’t afford even one mistake.
I’ve noted that point as well, and I will be watching very closely to see what happens over the next few hours. There is a good chance that this will not be my final vote.
I can’t believe I missed this post before. Lakai is sure that he Queuing and Storyteller are town. I definetly believe that they are on the same side. This may seem like a blatant mafia move, but like I said they are getting down to the last few. Disguised under the format that Starvingbutstrong started, it doesn’t look so obvious.
Look, Queuing Lakai and Storyteller are all on the same side. They are all mafia - it’s the only thing that makes sense. It is shown in Lakai’s quoted post and in yesterday’s vote. They almost got Pygmy Rugger lynched yesterday as well. They are close to getting him lynched today.
Fretful Porpentine, I see you’re keeping a level head about this. I understand how you probably distrust everyone at this point. I’m glad you’re going to keep an eye on how the voting unfolds.
This is the last time I’m going to post on this subject, because I don’t think you’re really listening to what anyone is saying to you, but for the record:
I completely disagree with your approach. As the endgame approaches, the Mafia will be trying to distance themselves from one another more than ever. Setting up in neat little blocs the way you seem to think has happened would be a tremendously foolish move with so little game remaining - creating a network that could be neatly and smoothly unwound with one lynch would offer them tremendous risk and absolutely no reward. Thinking that they would do this is going to allow someone to slip by unnoticed.
I remain firmly committed to the Pygmy Rugger vote. I outlined my reasons yesterday in pretty extensive detail, so I’m not going to do it again here. I will observe that we appear to be on the verge, again, of an eleventh hour vote change that leads from one candidate being firmly in the lead to a speedlynch of a different candidate. I am not interested in repeating that process.
Look, if there are four Mafia left, then a mis-lynch today will mean the end of the game. There is no margin for error. Just about everyone in town has expressed strong suspicions of Pygmy Rugger at one time or another (including brewha, who in the space of four hours has gone from voting Pygmy to creating a theory that assumes Pygmy is town); some of them are obviously Mafia. That does not mean that the Mafia want this lynch to go through; it may mean that they are trying to create plausible deniability when and if it does.
I am listening. I see what you’re saying. I could see how the mafia could orchestrate such a plan. I’m willing to consider that a possibility. Do you have a theory on who - other than - Pygmy Rugger is the remainaing mafia? I’m still quite certain that Lakai is one of the remaining mafia.
I’d like to see where the rest of the players stand on this. Last I recall, there seems to be 4 who haven’t voted.
2- brewha - (Pleonast, Fretful Porpentine)
2- Lakai - (brewha, Pygmy Rugger)
4- Pygmy Rugger - (StarvingButStrong, Kat, Queuing, Storyteller)
Lakai still hasn’t voted?
I know I said I wouldn’t do this, but brewha’s constant vote changes and attempts to bandwagon people based on his thinking alone has yet again bothered me.
Brewha, for a complete list of storyteller’s thinking see this post . Geez man, stop, read the thread and think before you go on another one of your half-baked attempted bandwagons. In case you haven’t noticed you haven’t been very successful, and it could be said that your defense of MM and constant harping on me allowed him to escape the lynch.
Trust me, we all get it, we all understand that you think I am scum and that you think Lakai is scum. What we don’t understand is your constant vote switching.
The way brewha is acting today is reminding me of the way Winston Smith went out. He knew he was town, he was under the gun, and he didn’t handle it very well. I think brewha is in the same situation.
Just double checked, no he hasn’t, and he still needs one post before the day ends.
My voting and accusations are not based on my thinking alone. I have tried basing my suspicions on what others say and it has proved futile. I’m basing my accusations on what people have done. Aguecheek was mafia. You didn’t vote for him. Storyteller did vote for him. Lakai didn’t vote for him. True, Pygmy Rugger didn’t vote for him either, but all three of you did vote for Pygmy Rugger. It sure does look like a mafia bandwagon to me.
I see it is much easier for you and Storyteller to just call me crazy. You say that I wildly flail about and haphazardly throw votes everywhere. I’ve got you guys pegged and since you can’t come up with a defense, you just try to wreck my credibility. New flash - I got no credibility to wreck. I’m just hoping that the other townies will at least look into what I’m saying and make up their own minds.
FTR, I’ve had the same suspicions that last few days. I’ve firmly stuck with you and Lakai. I may have added to or subtracted from my list of suspects, but I’ve stuck with my main two.
I was so much better off when I was keeping my mouth shut.
That of course should be
Storyteller didn’t vote for him.
I forgot to adress this point. I have changed my vote exactly once today. That is one (1) time. I don’t see how this is “constant”. Pleonast has switched votes more than me and we know he is town.
And what’s this “we”? You got a mouse in your pocket? How do you know what everyone else is thinking? Have you been going to secret meetings down at the warehouse at night? OK, that’s not fair and probably a little too sarcastic.
Serious question though. What do you care if I switched my vote to Lakai? Pygmy Rugger is still in the lead. Your bandwagon is still winning. Unless you and Lakai are both mafia, I don’t see why you questioned my constant (one) vote change when you said you weren’t going to. Seems a little fishy.
You know, for the past few days, I was leaning strongly towards brewha being town. I saw a decent argument for him being SK at one point, but nothing to really convince me that he was Mafia. The last page and a half has made me severly doubt my conclusions on this. And, no, this doesn’t feel to me like Winston Smith’s breakdown in Werewolf. This is just all over the place. And brewha wasn’t really in danger until he started babbling nonsense.
This whole thing just makes no sense to me. You got anything coherent to say, brewha?
This makes absolutely no sense to me. Why is he putting himself in danger to
Hmm, I started to say something, then meant to change part of it and delete the other part. But since it’s still there, I’ll go ahead and post what was originally the end of it:
Why is he putting himself in danger to prevent the lynching of someone he’s got on his Mafia list?
This is bugging me too much to let it go as well. Yes, that could be said. As a matter fact, if I didn’t know any better, I would say that that was your attempt at saying it. It means nothing. It doesn’t mean I’m mafia and it certainly doesn’t mean that you are not.
My defense of MonkeyMensch was based on his voting for Suburban Plankton. I only said that he did not act like Mafia. I defended him because I was sure that he was not mafia. Ya know what? He wasn’t.
You went after him becuase, you knew he wasn’t mafia as well. You never pushed his lynch becuase you thought he was the SK. You just knew he wasn’t mafia and that’s why you pushed for his lynching.
He broke down in the first game, too?
Yeah, he did. He false claimed Mason to avoid lynching.
Oh, yes. It was epic.
I never said that Pygmy Rugger was on my mafia list. That was the list of people that did not vote for Aguecheek and was not Pleonast or myself. As storyteller pointed out, The other three on the list voted for Pygmy Rugger the previous day. This is either because they were all mafia trying to confuse the town or because the three were mafia and trying to get another townie lynched.
I’m not defending Pygmy Rugger. He very well could be mafia. I would just rather see Lakai get lynched because I am most sure of his scumness.
I guess I’m putting myself in danger by posting so much because it’s Mon and I’m really trying to avoid doing any real work.
I apologize if I’m not being clear as to why I suspect who I do. I think it makes perfect sense. I would rather base my suspicions on what people have done and how they have voted than on what they have said.