Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!)

The Game Room
1901

[QUOTE=Autolycus]
Why do we’s think hocow is the SK again?
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Solely because Blaster Master said so. Nothing has lept out at me concerning that.

Extremely good point Queuing. No proof there at all. Sigh, there are so many factors going on in this game.
I also continue to think that the ability for the SK to win with a Mafia majority is almost nil. If we believe that the mafia will act for the betterment of the team then they will not allow themselves to get a majority while the SK is alive. It’s better for them to have 1 or 2 mobsters confess for the lynch and Vig kill then take the majority and lose. And if they’re that close it doesn’t really hurt them.

1902

[QUOTE=MadTheSwine]
UH OH… auto is in trrrrrroubllle.
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I is in trouble? I is in trouble? You’z in trouble punk. All this’s game ya stayed silent-like on the major issues, and’s all your stratergy is nothin’ but tripe. I cant’s claim much better, but hey them’s the breaks.

You wanna dance? FoS pointed squarely at you pal.

1903

[QUOTE=Fern Forest]

I also continue to think that the ability for the SK to win with a Mafia majority is almost nil.
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The SK does win if the Mafia gains a majority.

1904

MTS I believe that was he point, that until the SK is killed the scum don’t want to win.

I agree Fern Forest, for a bunch of n00b players we certainly stepped in it this time.

So please, let us forget about the SK currently? Scum should be the only goal today and tonight.

1905

[QUOTE=Autolycus]
I is in trouble? I is in trouble? You’z in trouble punk. All this’s game ya stayed silent-like on the major issues, and’s all your stratergy is nothin’ but tripe. I cant’s claim much better, but hey them’s the breaks.

You wanna dance? FoS pointed squarely at you pal.
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Hey,don’t kill the messenger…just have a look at post 1834.

1906

[QUOTE=Queuing]
MTS I believe that was he point, that until the SK is killed the scum don’t want to win.

I agree Fern Forest, for a bunch of n00b players we certainly stepped in it this time.

So please, let us forget about the SK currently? Scum should be the only goal today and tonight.
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Guess I misunderstood it…seemed worded funny.

SK should be killed ASAP.

1907

Mad: why are you fishing for a modkill?

1908

[QUOTE=JSexton]
Mad: why are you fishing for a modkill?
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Fishing? No fishing about it. The rule was broken, but if NAF1138 wants to allow the reason for the edit, thats up to him.

1909

That tears it. MadTheSwine, fishin’ or no, you seem all too eager to get’s rid of me. I is changin’ my vote, and I hope’s a bandwagon takes off on this one.

Lynch MadTheSwine
You’z been on some otha bums’ mistrust list too, if anyone else cares to look.

1910

Oh, and Unvote Suburban Plankton

1911

To us the SK is scum and we should treat him as such. But the reason I keep bringing it up is that I want to make sure that the SK knows that the only victory possible for him comes from surviving to a town victory. Were the SK to try for a mafia win that I’m sure they could kill a townsperson every night with only a small chance of missing and getting a mafioso. But that is a losing strategy and I want to make sure the SK knows it. It’s in our interest.

I’m curious what people think about this. Way back in the early 600s Blaster Master said that it was likely that cowgirl was the Mafia’s target. The only other people who knew that were the mob and that people would make that assumption would have probably been very surprising to them. I don’t recall much discussion about it beyond one post. Rysto seemed very surprised about it in post 650. I think this may shine very strongly that he’s a townsfolk. Would a mobster thought to have lept on this?

1912

[QUOTE=JSexton]

No, I didn’t say that at all.
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Yeah, OK. I lost track of who was saying what. I thought you were referring to my thoughts on whether we should be directing the Vig or not.

There were no links in this post. There were references to post numbers, but those aren’t the easiest things to use. Were you hoping no one would go to the trouble of finding the posts? Here is the relevant portion:

Other than the sections on Blaster Master and Queuing, I wouldn’t say this was particularly in-depth analysis. And let’s have a look at your most notable misread, namely Pleonast. Here is post #391, and here is post #461. You cite Pleonast’s “bandwaggoning”, but I don’t see it at all in #391, and only peripherally in #461. That is not actually the post in which he voted for Enfant Terrible, if that’s the bandwagon you’re referring to. Nor did he vote for anyone else in that post, although he did cast aspersions on Autolycus and Queuing. Note that you and Pleonast were both suspicious of Queuing. Also note that Gadarene was on the Enfant Terrible bandwagon, but you didn’t mention that, and it also turned out that Gadarene was just a Citizen - another misread.

No, you haven’t, but you are probably more experienced than anyone else playing. Some people seem to be in awe of you, I was just riffing on that.

Congratulations! Too bad your kid’s dad is mafia, though.

Vote JSexton.

1913

Post 1772:

No evidence given. Why do you think this?

Post 1843:

AT the time, Queueing and Gadarene were intensely suspicious of Pleonast and Blaster Master (who I both trusted).
Autolycus has posted a load of drivel, so even if he was Town, I flet he was a safe target.
I then accepted Blaster Master’s logic that we could do better.

Post 1844:

JSexton thought I was Mafia in one of his first posts (based purely on my dislike of random voting :rolleyes: ).

He repeats it here:
Post 1849:

If he is indeed scum, why would I be?

Post 1854:

What ‘connection’ have you got between me and Kivvik?!

Post 1865:

I didn’t vote for Enfant Terrible either.
I trusted Pleonast even when the heat was on him.
As I said above, I suggested Autolycus. Blaster Master said that would be a waste, so I asked for his opinion.
Presumably you agree Blaster Master is the Vig (a Townie) - why would a Mafia be ‘in cahoots’ with him?

1914

[QUOTE=NAF1138]
1817
**
MALACANDRA**!

First and last warning to the whole group. Use the edit feature, you *will * get mod killed.
This was one. Next time ANYONE uses the edit feature they are out.

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So presumably there goes Autolycus?
If so, do we learn his status?

(In case I sound unsympathetic, Autolycus irritated several of us with loads content-free, then posted analysis at night. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )
Mafia-speak posts

1915

Resisting the temptation to edit :eek: , that last should have read:

‘(In case I sound unsympathetic, Autolycus irritated several of us with loads of content-free Mafia-speak posts, then posted analysis at night. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )’

1916

[QUOTE=Fern Forest]
<snip> If we believe that the mafia will act for the betterment of the team then they will not allow themselves to get a majority while the SK is alive. It’s better for them to have 1 or 2 mobsters confess for the lynch and Vig kill then take the majority and lose. And if they’re that close it doesn’t really hurt them.
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Huh?

Oh, and on an unrelated note, Unvote pima.

1917

[QUOTE=JSexton]
I’m not sure what you want from me here. I disagree with the positions he took. I thought he was looking scummy for them before I took over his role. Beyond that, how can I possibly defend positions I didn’t take and don’t agree with?

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Fair or not, you are the one held accountable for chrisk’s actions. At least offer up some reasoning for what he did. Rysto is better than I am at this game (this is my first ever, and this may be another mistake, but still…), but he laid it out and for now I am trusting him. If I were taking chrisk’s role, I could think up a couple semi-decent reasons why he would:

a. Propose the cop-outing plan despite pointing to the obvious flaws in the werewolf observation thread

b. vote against the 12-hour countdown. Suspicious in itself, yet his defense made no sense at all.

1918

[QUOTE=Rysto]
sigh

Should have previewed.

Vote hocow. As somebody already pointed out, if hocow is the SK, lynching her prevents another killer.
Assassinate JSexton. His faulty analysis of Blaster Master is too much to get over.

Oh, and I am definitely not happy that storyteller was the one who FoS’ed pimaspinner, but has yet to vote for him.
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Yeah, I wouldn’t read much into this except that I am not so bright. As my post hopefully made clear, my intention at the time was to

Unvote FCoD
Vote pimaspinner

Though, honestly, I’d be equally happy voting for either, as I believe they are both scum.

In the meanwhile, what did you think of the rest of my arguments as regards pima in my very long post yesterday? I agree that penalizing people for one ill-thought statement would be a big mistake, which is why after I noticed the apparent contradiction and before

As for Enfant Terrible, as I made absolutely clear in my initial post that I had pointed out my suspicion of him in the hopes of getting a response. I didn’t want to cast a vote without giving him a chance to answer for himself. You will note that immediately following his response, which I found to be unsatisfactory, I voted.

Other quick hit thoughts:

zuma, it makes no sense to hold JSexton to chrisk’s actions; he cannot possibly know what chrisk was thinking.

[OUT OF GAME TALK]
Folks, I’m probably not going to be posting much in the next few days. I have any number of absolutely thrilling family commitments today and tomorrow, and my computer access will be limited. I’ll probably have time to make one post in the morning on Sunday and another early on Monday, and I’ll do my best to keep abreast of everything in the meanwhile. I apologize.
[/OUT OF GAME TALK]

1919

See what I mean about not being bright? To finish this sentence:

…after I noticed the apparent contradiction and before I voted for pima, I went back and checked her record, and found any number of other things that struck me as odd. Add them together, and there seems like there’s a pattern there.

1920

[QUOTE=storyteller0910]

zuma, it makes no sense to hold JSexton to chrisk’s actions; he cannot possibly know what chrisk was thinking.
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:confused:??? Jsexton/chrisk are one and the same. Jsex is accountable for the ck posts…and… I think he has a very good idea what chrisk was thinking.