And in colour.
Pedescribe.
Can you please verify that the Testerizer result you gave in Day 1 was the correct result for a Farmer.
Really good question!
So on one hand you don’t think reveiling who’s a farmer and who’s a rancher can’t hurt the town but on the other the end game could get really messy. Any reason for the change of heart?
Damn, I meant to follow that up with a vote.
Vote Telcontar
I have to agree with Telcontar that and rex that Zeriel’s cageyness is odd. I’d also like a list of investigatees from him. I think his role actually makes more sense for a wolf than for town in some ways. The fact that he hasn’t been killed (or, presumably, attempted to be killed but saved) is also odd.
The new implications of the imbalance rather than the balance also have to be weighed. Assuming an even divide of 9/9 at the beginning, and the truth of the fact that werewolves have farmer/rancher status, we should have 7 ranchers and 5 farmers left. Of the farmers, then, 2/5 are probably scum (as opposed to 2/7 of the remaining ranchers) – unless within the scum group this status was also assigned randomly (though I’m not sure that would be fair to the town, so I’m assuming it would be an even split within the scum as well). This is getting to the point where it might be worthwhile to think about how we want to handle this kind of information.
We have moved from speculating about wolves having town roles to everyone agreeing that it is so, seemingly. Is my recollection off, or is this entirely based on something that Zeriel said?
I don’t know why others have concluded that Werewovles have Farmern/Rancher status.
I believe they do because we have been told that power roles in this game will not be strong.
Consider; if Werewolves do not have Farmer/Rancher status, what result would Ichini have received if she had investigated a Werewolf? The return cannot be “Farmer” or “Rancher” so, as soon as Ichini received the odd result, she would have known she’d checked a Werewolf.
Now consider that it is very likely that if one of the Town-aligned Farmers can detect Farmer/Rancher alignment, it’s very probable that a Town-aligned Rancher can too. That would give two Detectives capable of spotting Wolves, booth on the Town side (since Wolves don’t have Farmer/Rancher status).
That doesn’t square with what Pedescribe told us about the game. Two Detectives, in a game this size, is significantly overbalancing against the Wolves, unless they have a camouflage mechanism. What is the easiest such mechanism? Give them status as Farmer or Rancher. That way the two detectives have something to pick up on, and the Werewolves aren’t revealed by the Detectives.
Telcontar (3): Mahaloth, Justin Credible, Oredigger77
MHaye (1): Zeriel
Mahaloth (1): Allwalker
DaphneBlack (1): Elendil’s Heir
Telcontar (2): Mahaloth, Justin Credible
MHaye (1): Zeriel
Elendil’s Heir (1): rexnervous
DaphneBlack (1): Elendil’s Heir
Yes. Yes they were.
Do we know for sure if wolves have rancher/farmer roles too, or is this still up to us to figure out?
By the way, I agree that Zeriel should tell us some info. at this point.
Who have you investigated?
There are times I really wonder if you’re intentionally misreading me. I’m calling for Zeriel to say WHO he investigated, not what he found. That you can’t follow something explicitly mentioned in my post is sleazy and should be noted.
As Daphne says, his power makes sense for a wolf. I am, however, operating under some slightly awkward assumptions:
1.) Ich’s power was equivalent to Zeriel
2.) Both Farmers and Ranchers have one cop/investigator
3.) There is no other Rancher investigator in the game (else they would have claimed by now…hint hint)
This forces me to conclude that he’s innocent. Unfortunately he’s acting guilty as hell, so I’d really like to know if there’s a problem with my assumptions. This is especially true given that he keeps surviving.
For the moment:
test Oredigger77
You’re advocated some really bad ideas over the last two days and I’m beginning to think it’s intentional. You weren’t an early vote against Freudian, which counts in your favor (I think) but your play over the last two days is enough for now.
I will not answer this question, as it would unduly alter the gamestate.
Telcontar (3): Mahaloth, Justin Credible, Oredigger77
Oredigger77 (1): Telcontar
MHaye (1): Zeriel
Mahaloth (1): Allwalker
DaphneBlack (1): Elendil’s Heir
Telcontar (2): Mahaloth, Justin Credible
MHaye (1): Zeriel
Elendil’s Heir (1): rexnervous
DaphneBlack (1): Elendil’s Heir
We risk another vote leader situation.
The votes need to be closer to order to put pressure on the players.
In that spirit I, for now, change my vote.
Untest Mahaloth
I will recast my vote soon - I was about to, but then changed my mind.
sigh this is becoming difficult. Be back soon.
OK. Of all the lower-volume posters (excluding Elendil, who is definitely very high on my suspicion list, but who almost seems to be deliberately posting as little as possible and in a confrontational style), the one who I am most suspicious of is Justin Credible.
He’s been posting really very little (35 total posts in the thread), but just enough to stay off the bottom of the lurker list. He alternates between ‘not having a lot to say’ (580), posting non-content/fluffy posts (such as about the mechanics of the testeriser (eg 142, 809), 244, 246 (‘helpful’ interactions with the mod), 434, 446, and several other one line replies) and being on both sides of issues without really taking much of a stand on anything. In fact, no one other than me seems to have interacted with him much at all. His first post (123, another one-liner) accuses me of trying to ‘hide in plain sight’, which is what it looks to me like he has actually done, so far.
His playstyle is a lot of what one would expect from a slightly cautious newbie wolf.
test Justin Credible
What do you mean…a “vote leader situation”?
Oh, and thanks for untestvoting me. 
Not disagreeing with you on Justin, but why not Elendil? You seemed suspicious of him yesterday.
I’m not against voting for Elendil, I may yet do so. I am definitely very suspicious of him. Just wanted to shine a light on what I think is scummy scum Justin, who has gotten no one looking at him at all.
Looking back over my posts, I guess you’re right - they are often pretty short. Most of the time, it seems like other people have already said what I wanted to say, so I end up just "me too"ing them and trying to expand on it a little if I can. I do mostly keep up with the game in the evenings and nights.
And I really don’t think trying to decipher the testerizer is posting “fluff.” I thought it was a pretty important part of the game. At least, it seemed to be early on.
You’re just all over the place with your accusations aren’t you? It seems like you want the focus to be on anyone and everyone, as long as it’s not on you. The only exception is that you never really went after Telcontar very strongly, even when everyone else was. You just threw out some token observations on him, but you never really said anything that hadn’t already been said. Looking back, I think that is pretty important, and if we test one of you and you turn up scum, we definitely need to look at the other one next.
Mostly, you seem to post a lot of noise with very little signal. You’re at the top of the list when it comes to number of posts, but most of them are just chatter. Granted, you’ve gotten a lot of conversations going, which is good. But all of your posts have a common theme - you post a loquacious accusation of the suspicious person of the day or you ask random questions about other people’s posts. Anything to make it look like you’re being helpful while keeping the focus off of yourself.
I have a very strong feeling that if we had lynched you on Day two instead of Freudian Slit, that we would be up one townie and down one wolf.
Re: Daphne
Okay, so why are you voting for me and not her?
Note that I currently am not voting for her.
I might still. I have plenty of time to change my vote.