Westworld - premieres Sunday (show spoilers as airs)

There’s Something About Dolores

What did Bernard’s son die of, then? It wasn’t a car accident, he was clearly in some hospital unit. Even if it was an implanted memory, it doesn’t jibe with that account.

I think they’ve “cured all disease” like the Trek Federation doesn’t “use money”…

In the future they can quickly grow a new one in a biochemical sac.
They call it an eyePod.

He complained that she wasn’t fast enough to get his gun. And as I recall she acts as surprised as he is when she finds the gun in the hay. It had to be shenanigans played out by Dolores herself in some way.

This show really, really reminds me of an extended episode of Black Mirror.

I think Arnold has something to do with the Maze.

I think he’s in the middle of it.

ETA: I’m terrible at “Name that Tune”…what was the player piano song?

Coming back to say my favorite not favorite part of the episode:

Ford – Why are you covering this guy up? Is it to hide his modesty? He’s not embarassed! He doesn’t feel!

Guy (what I’m assuming he’s thinking) – Uhh…yeah I know he’s not real, I just don’t want to stare at some 60-year old’s dong for, like, 3 hours.

The simultaneous showing of multiple time loops is messing with me.

Scene: Delores opens the drawer and finds the gun; shuts the drawer, re-opens it and the gun is no longer there.

Speculation: I am assuming that at some loop not shown she hides the gun in the dirt where we saw her retrieve it in an earlier episode?

Scene: Delores gets shoved into the haystack by the bad-guy rapist; he reaches for his gun; but Delores finds it in her hand.

Speculation: I am assuming that this sequence was also two different loops, where in one she wrests the gun from the rapist somehow and hides it in her drawer, and another where she retrieves the gun from where she buried it and hides it in the haystack?

Regarding sentience.

Both Delores and the Madam (does she have a name?) are experiencing memories and developing sentience. Perhaps others too, like Delores’s father?

Anyway, Bernard mentions that he has “changed” Delores and considered changing her back. I conclude that this is what is causing her self awareness. Is there any evidence that he has also “changed” the Madam? Or is the sentience somehow spreading like a virus?

Also, there was speculation that the scenes with William were some 30 years in the past. But Delores has escaped her rape scene and run into William. This either means that Delores developed her sentience very early, or that the William scenes are current rather than in the past?

And I’m not even going to touch the mystery of the suicidal host.

I interpreted that as part of the “virus” prompting him to destroy his brain to prevent effective analysis.

Maeve? I think.

Correct. While we’re at it, can we please all try to remember that Dolores is spelled with two Os and one E, in that order.

Yeah, maybe I spend too much time looking at/dealing with malicious code, but that’s exactly what I saw.

Doloores? :stuck_out_tongue:

I can’t help but focus on that name, because it has always struck me as a not-great name for your daughter:

[QUOTE=a Google Search]
The name Dolores is a Spanish baby name. In Spanish the meaning of the name Dolores is: Sorrow. From Maria de los Dolores (the Virgin Mary, or Mary of the Sorrows.)
[/QUOTE]

When I was taking Spanish, I remember learning that dolor is used to mean “pain” - me duele la cabeza = I have a headache.

I think about that when I consider what Dolores’ arc is going to be in this show.

The name ‘Dolores’ always makes me think of that Seinfeld episode.

Mulva.

That young Anthony Hopkins scene was perhaps the best age-regression effect I’ve ever seen. I don’t know if it was just pure CGI or what, but he looked exactly the way he did in the film “Magic” from 1978. Very cool.

I enjoyed the show quite a lot and looking forward to more episodes. I have to say that this kind of bothered me, too. I’m a naturist (as in, clothing optional) so nudity as a thing doesn’t bother me. But it seems a bit gratuitous in these laboratory scenes. If the hosts were just repaired and are about to be put into action, I can see they would be nude because they haven’t been costumed yet. But when they’re just taken out of “the field” to be questioned, they should still have their costumes on. So in a nutshell, we should be seeing both nude and costumed hosts in the glass laboratory rooms. But we’re not. They’re all naked all the time.

Perhaps it’s just a cheat so the audience knows who is the host and who is the staff, I guess. Seems to insult the audience’s intelligence, though.

Possibly the distraction of the nudity helps soften that the deeeeep philosophy under discussion often makes no sense at all.

Imagine reading the script of the scene without the visual. I bet a lot of the questions about knowledge and self-awareness would read like vapid naval-gazing. Personally, I tend to tune out during those chat scenes. I’m not expecting any major insights into artificial intelligence that haven’t been better done elsewhere, and I’d rather just see robots gradually going berserk without any need to delve into their “awakening”.