Westworld - premieres Sunday (show spoilers as airs)

He did something akin to that in the bar, too, as I recall, restarting the player piano (which ran at double or triple speed) and rejuvenating Teddy with a snap of his fingers.
There’s something about the church steeple - I recall Hopkins (with the English boy beside him) looking at an empty plain with the steeple standing alone, and I gather the south-of-the-border town (including its church) eventually “evolved” around it decades later, suggesting Hopkins is himself a bot or a slowly-aging human. I’m sure the clues are there, but it’s a hassle to puzzle them out so I’ll just enjoy the ride.

Jeffrey Wright’s character is listed as “Bernard Lowe” on IMDb.
Apparently it’s just online speculation because we haven’t been told Arnold’s last name.

A few thoughts on the latest episode:

  • Dolores completely breaks out of her old loops after meeting with Ford. But is this part of her previous progression (presumably prompted by her inner Arnold) or is this something Ford programmed to support his new narrative? He asks her whether she wants to be “hero or villain” and the next thing we know she’s off committing armed robbery (albeit reluctantly) and shooting people.

  • Dolores also says the familiar line “Did I do something wrong?” to William. Not sure what the significance of that is yet.

  • William makes a comment (sorry, I can’t remember the exact wording) about Westworld keeping the guests so entangled in a sense of urgency that they don’t have time to stop and think about what they’re doing…shortly before they’re running for their lives to jump onto a moving train heading to the war front.

  • The story on what happened to Arnold seems to be evolving. He “died” - but do we really believe that he killed himself? When Ford talks about the MiB helping him out 30 years earlier it wasn’t clear to me whether this was about saving the part from whatever Arnold had done or about doing something about Arnold himself.

  • Somehow I’d missed earlier that Ford’s first name was Robert. Heh.

Oh, one more thing. I noted the woman blackmailing the host-humping tech had, moments earlier, been drooling over the sizable assets of the host she was assessing. Looking vs doing, I guess.

The woman character is named Elsie and some of the recaps of the episode I’ve read touched on that scene, because the host was a naked black man with a very visible dick and she was a clothed white woman. Did anyone else think anything odd about that scene?

Apart from the “hey, look at this enormous schlong” factor (which I suppose is only fair given all the nekkid ladies we’d already seen), there’s a whole thing going on with the staff simultaneously treating the hosts as mindless things and yet fantasizing about them. It must be like those people who work counting vast amounts of money for casinos, dreaming about running off with millions yet knowing they’d never get away with it.

Was she the one that kissed Clementine in the first episode?

Yes

Don’t forget, however, that this is the same girl who gave a big ole’ lezzie kiss on Meave’s assistant in the first episode.

So pot calling the kettle a big black here on her part

Your Freudian slip is showing. :slight_smile:

He never said it was 30 years ago. He said it was just before the park opened, with no mention of when it opened.

I’m not sure if William is the MIB or not, but it’s clear they are setting up for some sort of twist. There’s too much hidden information for there to not be one:

  1. William and Logan have only interacted with hosts. We have yet to see them interact with any other known human characters.*
  2. They have been purposefully vague on Dolores story line and when things are happening, and what is really happening.
  3. We don’t know MIB’s name
  4. We don’t know what Arnold looks like
  5. Lawrence showed up immediately after being killed by MIB. And the way his reveal was shot was meant to be a surprise.

*As far as I can tell the only connecting is the same security guy authorized MIB’s explosion and remarked on Dolores being off loop. So if these aren’t happening at the same time means he’s actually a host, which kinda fits in with what we’ve seen about him.

Well, yeah the blackmailer may not own the moral high ground but she has the video evidence high ground.

I think we can assume that all scenes involving the human park staff are modern-day (and not 30 years ago).

Why do we keep saying we don’t know what Arnold looks like? Isn’t he one of the guys in this picture? (Scroll down about halfway.) Here’s another screen shot of the same photo.

You’re right. Good catch, I’d forgotten that.

Is Ford the one on the right, in the vest? Because the boy appears to be dressed much the same. Someone suggested he was supposed to represent a younger version of Ford and that seems plausible.

The interesting thing about that picture is that Arnold looks pretty old in it. So even if he didn’t “kill himself”, I think the (some have advanced) theory that Arnold is still alive probably isn’t right.

Yeah, I thought that was supposed to be obvious.

Some other thoughts…

Why would the Union soldiers on guard at the gates of Pariah have their two cannon pointing into the city? Why would they let the “Confederados” keep scheming? Why would they not stop and interrogate anyone riding into town in an obviously-stolen wagon with “U.S.” emblazoned on it? All part of the Narrative, I guess.

Anyone else notice Dolores’s eye twitch before she spotted “herself” in the voodoo parade? Her voice also got uncharacteristically husky and had more of a twang when she told William she’d decided not to be a damsel anymore.

Intriguing that she said “I didn’t tell him anything” after Ford talked with her alone.

I nosed around the WW website again and asked, “Can I molest an emu?” Aeden, bless her/his/its cybernetic heart, replied, “At Westworld, anything that’s physically possible can happen. Anything you want is at your fingertips—just waiting to be touched, caressed or released.”

:: groan ::

“A harvest of whores”? “A posse of prostitutes”? “A shimmy of streetwalkers”?

Dunno, really. Could be years yet.

(6) The old-style WW logo at the top of the escalator when William and Logan arrived.

Ford is the one on the left; Arnold (if that really is him) is in the vest on the right.

In that case is the boy supposed to be a younger version of Arnold?

For that matter, the fact that the structure with the escalators has been shown as long-abandoned and partly flooded in the episode where the characters take malfunctioning hosts down to the lowest level for long-term storage.