So the SW logos were for Samurai World?
It’s what makes the most sense.
I need to rewatch the season for many reasons, but also to see if Ford’s motivations make sense based on how he’s acted.
Also, I really want to know what happened to Logan, but because I love the character that much, but because of what it means about the park safety. Did William basically murder Logan and get away with it? Or did Logan survive but William was manipulative enough to get control of Delos?
That would make sense if he really was the evil genius playing God, but I think he genuinely wanted to hosts to have consciousness, and realized that he would have to die for them to rise.
Also, Anthony Hopkins isn’t super busy now, but I would be somewhat surprised if he signed on for multiple seasons. I’m guessing we’ll see him in flashbacks, but just as occasional guest star.
Sorry for so many posts.
Okay, maybe I’m just a cold hearted bitch, but there were only 2 characters (Maeve, Felix) that I cared about. I didn’t really care if any of the others died. So the finale was kind of eh to me.
A finale like this works better after a couple of seasons, when you have time invested in the characters. In GoT’s The Red Wedding, maybe I didn’t love every character, but at least I really knew them.
The MIB’s long explanation to Dolores, about how William turned dark seemed unnecessary. In fact, I found the episode overly wordy several times.
The storm trooper security guards were laughable.
What I find very sad is that Maeve’s daughter will probably have been re-programmed and won’t know who she is. Unless that was the same little girl that first told MIB that the maze was not for him. Then she may be aware, also.
If Maeve’s quest to escape was part of Ford’s plan, would it not also be possible that the security detail could be hosts, programmed to allow Maeve to get as far as she did without killing them?
Probably unlikely, but still, Ford seemed to have everything in control.
I’n not sure whether Maeve has gone autonomous or whether it’s some more of Ford’s scripting (hidden from the primary script). That’s the tragedy of the robots; they can never be certain whether they’re making their own decisions or blindly following a program.
As to Ford, did he intend his own death to herald the death of humanity? Seems a little far-reaching even for a mad scientist. I’m intrigued to know which way the next season will go. How do the robots cover up the slaughter of presumably some of the wealthiest and most prominent people on the planet? I guess they could replace them with robots but that was the exact plot of the lame Futureworld, the follow-up to the film Westworld and would be just as lame in this show.
And if it isn’t covered up and the truth comes out surely the government would order the place nuked from orbit. OK, William has a lot of sway in the real world and would want the park left just as it was and how he’d always hoped it coud be, but surely he’s not powerful enough to make the government ignore suh a threat to humanity.
And by the way how does William expect to survive for long in a park full of killer robots, all massively stronger than him? The guy must have a death wish.
Sad to see Hopkins die. Sure, he could come back as a robot or perhaps that was a robot that was shot and he’s still around. I can’t see Anthony Hopkins committing to a whole series though so I think this is farewell. He was such a central figure to the first season that the show could have a lot of trouble without his dominating presence.
Two different girls - Maeve’s daughter and Lawrence’s daughter.
I totally agree. Unbelievable that none of their bullets hit the robots. With a weapon like that you don’t even need to aim accurately, just spray the gun in the general direction. It completely took me out of the moment.
The security guards were on a search and destroy mission, and their targets weren’t even human, so why were they so reluctant to shoot? They’d say, “Cease all motor function” and “Get on the ground”. Why didn’t they just shoot to kill without saying anything? Surely they’d heard or seen after a bit that the hosts weren’t responding to the Cease Motor Function command?
One can argue that they’d been drilled by their bosses to not destroy valuable corporate property; that was for guests only to do.
But I agree, it looked pretty lame.
I think it might be the opposite. Ford constantly talked about how the hosts are better than humans - he could have created a host Ford for his consciousness to live on and sacrificed his human body for the ‘next stage in evolution’ (so to speak).
Oh, was that what that was? I still like “Eastworld” better for the Samurai. Then they could have “Northworld” with Vikings. And “Southworld” for, I dunno, a tropical island paradise.
Okay, that’s deep.
WTF does it mean? Is that Elsie’s location or was she a host?
Navigating the Delos sites is pretty trippy at the moment.
Great interview with Jimmi Simpson in which he reveals the tiny clue which led him to understand that he and Ed Harris were playing the same character. (The whole cast were kept in the dark about that until they’d shot most of the season but Simpson worked it out very early on. Ed Harris himself didn’t realize until 7 months after Jimmi.)
Simpson also reveals whether he’ll be back in Season 2.
I’m assuming because they don’t know if there are Delos personal mixed in with the human-looking hosts. Presumably the staff would be trained to get on the ground to avoid getting shot while a rampaging robot would not be responding to commands.
Although one wonders why Westworld has tactical response teams armed with FN P90 submachineguns in the first place. Disney doesn’t maintain SWAT teams in case the Pirates of the Caribbean come to live.
As is the Discover Westworld site. There’s a very strange video up now, and Aeden is being a bit hostile.
I think they’re telling us that Elsie is alive.
Reminds me of Lost, with the Dharma Initiative site.
Please don’t let it be another Lost
In other news, the full soundtrack is now available on Spotify.
His session with Dolores where she asks if they are old friends and he says “no…I wouldn’t say that at all.” At the time, that seemed a bit harsh. Like what does Ford have against Dolores? She’s just a host. We were supposed to think he just views her with contempt or ambivalence. In reality, it’s resentment for her role in Arnold’s death, combined with a sympathetic view that the hosts are becoming self aware.
Also Ford’s conversation with Bernard (as well as his story about the greyhound). There is the question is what does he do with the knowledge that the hosts can develop consciousness? The corporate interests of Delos wouldn’t let them shut down the park. And what is Maeve supposed to do out in the real world with no credentials, no history, no familiarity and no skills besides being a robot prostitute?
I’m sure Logan will get picked up in the park long before he’s in any real danger.
I think happens is word of the son of the owner of the park showing up naked is bound to get back to his father. Presumably Logan already has a bit of a reputation as a drunk and a womanizer so this is just more of his antics. So the head of Delos will leave the business to his stable hardworking son-in-law instead of his douche son.
It’s hard for me to figure out what the end game is here. Sure the park is going to be closed down after a bunch of rampaging hosts wipe out the board. But they’re also going to send in police, SWAT, maybe even the army to wipe out all the hosts.
Or maybe next season the hosts take all the guests hostage forcing some sort of public acknowledgements of their sentience?
Or they replace all the VIPs with hosts to cover it all up?
I have to think Ford had something longer-term in mind than starting a short-lived robot/human war.
Maeve’s escape plan was part of Ford’s plan because he needed a distraction to empty out cold storage. If the security guys are hosts then he does not need to distract them at all.