No, the door wasn’t visible to humans–one of them said “what door?” and it showed their POV of the empty view. The door was at the edge of a cliff–you could see the bodies falling away.
OK, thanks. I must have remembered incorrectly. I thought we had a shot from the POV of the humans showing something going from the ground to the sky in the distance.
We saw it in the wide shot with Charlotte and Zombie-Clementine heading towards it, but they didn’t react to it at all.
You mean, invisible to human observers. It wasn’t a real magic door. What happened was, every host crossing the (virtual) threshold at the edge of the cliff was uploaded to the Forge computer, the old body being deactivated and falling to the valley below. Dolores then manually loaded Teddy in there before uploading the entire program to a secret destination instead of the Delos mainframe.
At the time it seemed that way, but that isn’t why Elsie gets shot. She gets shot because she knows Bernard is a host. Charlotte doesn’t shoot Elsie. A host does. The reasoning is all BS.
Human Charlotte shot Elsie.
I’m very sure that second sentence was thrown in there as an easy way for the writer of the article to play devil’s advocate and play both sides.
Based on the amount of plot threads this season that magically dropped, or ended up not being anything, I think the Stubbs reveal was, in fact, a spur of the moment idea and not something carefully planned from the beginning.
Oh my gosh. They killed [del]Kenny[/del] Shannon Woodward. You bastards.
I think so, too, but I don’t think we know that for sure. The timing of human Charlotte’s replacement by her host lookalike is unclear to me.
It’s pretty clear. Bernard seeing Elsie shot is was drives him to reimagine Ford and put Dolores in Charlotte’s body. We see Charlotte standing over Elsie’s dead body just before she gets shot.
But where did Bernard get the time to make a fake Charlotte after Charlotte shoots Elsie?
Elsie is there after the whole ‘door’ incident and Zombie-Clementine, right? (I’m legit asking, this show is so f-ed up).
I guess maybe there was time for Bernard to slip away and build a fake Charlotte, but that doesn’t really make sense either. I mean, real Charlotte knew Bernard was a Cylon too right? It just doesn’t seem logical for him to be running around unsupervised making a fake Charlotte.
Eh. I don’t think I really care.
Real Charlotte never knew Bernard was a bot.
I thought she was interviewing him like he was a host, to get the coordinates for their macguffin. Or was that supposed to be fake Charlotte? But that happened before the “door” thingy though.
No, that happened after. Bernard with glasses = before the door = Human Charlotte. Bernard without glasses = after the door = Host Charlotte (Halores)
But I thought the interview was precisely to get the location of the door. Oh never mind. That show is too messed up/I’m messed up. Short of writing out everything that happened in logical order, I don’t think I’m going to get it.
I remember him reimagining Ford; I didn’t notice that Charlotte was standing over Elsie’s corpse. And I still don’t get why he thought it would be a good idea to bring back Dolores, given her rampage before he shot her.
The interview was to find Abernathy/the encryption key. They knew where the Forge/Door was.
So - let me put it this way - am I the only one here who finds the idea of a setting where very rich and possibly depraved human guests are free to explore their worst tendencies in an extremely realistic simulation of real life (in this case, the Old West, but it could be any place and time, including current time) where there are no consequences to anything you do - to be a more compelling premise and more rich with interesting ideas for drama and tension, than the idea of the artificial intelligence of the hosts even entering into the equation at all?
I mean, that was basically the William and Logan storyline last season. How much more can oyu get out of that?
that timeline really helps! thanks!