I suspect many fat people do care. But it’s easy to look at yourself and decide you look terrible whatever you do, so there’s no point in making yourself look even more comical by appearing to have tried to look good and failed, as if you believe there might be some potential there.
I’m not surprised to see that the OP admits to being fat too.
Last year I took a cruise with a three other women–all who were on the chubby side. Not an hour would go by without at least one of them complaining about what some other fat person was wearing on the boat. “OMG, do you see those shorts on her? What is she thinking!” “Why is she wearing that tight dress with all those rolls?” “Gah, she needs to be arrested for that bikini!” You know the drill.
It damn near drove me insane because 1) who the hell goes on a cruise just to focus on some idiot passengers?? and 2) the clothing choices of other people are of zero consequence to me and as topic, it actually bores me to tears. Ultimately, all their commentary told me was that they were so consumed with insecurity and self-loathing that they needed to police what other people wear to feel better about their fat selves. Because Lord knows my cabin mates weren’t brave enough to showcase their bodies like the objects of their scorn were. When we went to the beach, they hid their stomachs and legs behind coverups and yet still were too self-conscious to prance about in the sand. They weren’t under the delusion that anyone could find them sexy, so they stayed away from revealing clothes.
It was like they felt like they deserved a medal for being suitably ashamed. That’s what I think of when I see fat people being critical of other fat people.
I’m fat. Obese in fact. Have been for 30+ years.
I wear what I find comfortable and for me that is loose but not baggy jeans and tee shirts most of the time. Rarely knee length short in the summer, sweatpants in the cooler weather.
People are free to wear what they choose, within decency and venue limits. If an overweight person wants to wear revealing clothing, I don’t care and if I don’t find it or them attractive, well that’s my problem, not theirs.
Unless, yanno, they can’t afford to. My husband has gone from ridiculously underweight whilst he was sick one time (and mostly in the hospital, so we didn’t have to do a lot of changing to his wardrobe) to quite a bit overweight because he’s been stuck on steroids to combat another part of his illness for forever. We’re so broke we’ve lost our home, so replacing his clothes with something appealing to others isn’t really very high on our priority list. Something incidental like electricity and insurance are more important.
And whoa be to any moron that dare say something to him about it (like that he’s lazy) because all we can afford are resale shops, the dreaded Walmart and sweat pants (since those accommodate all the fluctuations better)… if that ever happens, I will seriously lose my cool and run their lame asses over with the only vehicle we have left. Hmph.
And I really only popped into this thread because I was hoping for another “F bomb.” Seeing some people get the vapors over it cracks me up.
I’m a fan of talking about mundane things, which is why I posted to this thread in the first place.
But there is a difference between offering up your opinion about something mundane and posting “why do inferior people do inferior things?” lameness. Wasn’t it you who created a thread about this type of Doper behavior? Feigning ignorance about why people throw big weddings, watch TV, or drink soda as an excuse to bash them is just as stupid as doing it with regard to dressing preferences. Because the answer is ALWAYS the same. “Everyone has different opinions.” “Everyone likes different things.”
It seems to me you have a problem with people opinionatin’ about your opinions. You are free to think whatever you want about Fat Girl in the hot pants. But if you reveal your harsh opinions on a public message board, people are free to think you’re a jerk. If you can’t handle this, then you are no different from all those “butthurt” fat people you think are looking for a virtual “hugbox.”
I couldn’t care less what anyone else chooses to wear. Honestly, that is about last on my list of things I ponder. The only thought I ever have when I see some of the more extreme examples of ill-fitting clothes (usually found on an overweight person) is whether or not the person is aware of how bad the clothes look on them.
Monstro, where is your fan club, I will join up. 
Fan club? My head is already too big! We mustn’t make it even bigger so that my hats become tight and ill-fitting.
A lot of people are assuming that tight clothes = unkempt or poorly dressed. No doubt Incubus is imagining his favorite “neckbeard” somehow related to too-tight shirts with stains and rips.
You can talk all day about whether or not it’s ok for someone to be unkempt in the presence of Adonises such as Incubus and his very put-together and very Mexican wife, but is that really the topic?
The topic is fat people in tight clothes. Not smelly clothes or ripped clothes. And not particularly grown-out-of clothes.
You can’t equate a fat girl in a pair of $80 “jeggings” with a nice blouse and shoes to someone who isn’t interested in their appearance. You can’t say that because a woman has a tight tanktop on doesn’t care about her appearance because it’s a size 22 tanktop. Fat people can wear tight clothes and make it look good.
People with a few extra pounds who wear last summer’s too-tight clothes, those people probably look bad and don’t have a mirror. Guys who haven’t bought new work shirts since they quit going to the gym and are being held in by two buttons, they probably could use a little help.
But if the OP is asking “should fat people - and you know I mean FAT PEOPLE, like really big whales! - hide themselves under baggy clothes?” I say no. Many of those people can look way better in something skin-tight than people who spent too much time at the ice cream stand this summer and didn’t mean for that skirt to be so tight. There’s a difference.
Hope you never start hanging over the side of your bus driver’s uniform, Incubus! Your wife who is also Mexican might have to buy you a new one, lest you go out looking like you don’t take care of yourself.
Depends on how they are shaped. Orca fat? Michelin Man fat?
Serious question - when you say “way better” don’t you mean “less fat”? Because looking less obviously fat is the whole point here, right? Anything that disguises the cellulite and rolls and drooping pannus is good, for society’s sake.
Because I am here to tell you that anyone with a BMI of 40 or higher is going to look FAT no matter whether they’re wearing a muu-muu or spandex. And I have respect of sorts (even though it’s not societally PC) for a fat person who says fuck it and doesn’t give a rip about what random strangers think.`I actually respect that a whole lot more than people who spend hours trying to make themselves look like Jersey Shore characters (and I know such people) before leaving the house.
I guess I must be typing backwards again because that’s exactly what I was trying to say in this post and my previous post on the first page. I just got drowned out by a lot of whateverishness. As I said in my last post, I am one of those people with a BMI over 40 who looks fat no matter what I wear. There’s no reason for me to dress baggy and no way people won’t hate on it either way.
Can we all just agree that this is not the answer, non-tightness notwithstanding?
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/tuckin-em-in/
(Seriously though, I hope someone helped this lady, because she is unwell.)
I think the OP is talking about fat women trying to be sexy
Yes indeedy and I apologize for missing your initial post.
You beat me to it. I was meaning to link that.
Also, there is a very easy way fat people can avoid other people judging them and looking good in a variety of clothes- get in shape. Controversial, I know, but by building muscle tone and lowering their BMI there will be more clothes they will look good in.
This board embraces education, curiosity, knowledge, and intellectualism. I don’t see why it can’t be equally laudable to apply the same effort to our own bodies.
“Very easy”? If it’s so easy, why are all these people still fat? Character flaw? :dubious:
Let’s cut through the bullshit here. It doesn’t matter to you what a fat person wears–you’re not going to respect them because they’re fat. You’re content to make fun of fat people purely by dint of their fatness, regardless of their wardrobe. There’s no reason a fat person should dress to please you, or others like you, because there is no pleasing you.
So you know, have fun with your shitty opinion. Just don’t expect anyone else to care about it.
In re: the OP, when I see fat people wearing clothing so tight it’s rucking up and binding, I think the same thing I think when I see anyone wearing that, which is something along the lines of, “My goodness, that looks like it feels awful.”
Occasionally I think people don’t really know how various pieces of clothing are customarily meant to fit, e.g., how much you’re supposed to be able to comfortably swing your arms around in a tailored coat. A lot of ready-to-wear is cut very strangely, to some sort of average measurements that don’t correspond to any actual person, and I wonder if people don’t know it’s not supposed to be that uncomfortable and inconvenient.
I’m allowed to have opinions on the aesthetics of other people’s outfits, as is everyone else. But considering I’m sitting here in a hand-me-down sports bra and a pair of shorts manufactured by a company who thinks that if you need inseams you’re wasting material, I don’t think I’m qualified to lay down any kind of law. 
This just isn’t so.
I had a wonderful yoga instructor a couple of years ago. She was the first who really made me dig yoga. One day I was chatting with another studio patron about this instructor. At first we were just exchanging praises for her. But then this bitch said, “The only bad thing is that [stage whisper] she’s a little on the fat side.”
It’s true that this instructor was larger than the other instructors–who are bone-skinny, some in an unhealthy looking way. She was Colombian, and had the ample booty and thighage and boobage of a woman of Indian and African extraction. But she wasn’t fat fat. She didn’t have a gut. Her thighs were firm and muscular–not dimpled in the least. Her arms had a bit of softness to them, but this was a woman who could do one-handed push-ups. She was curvacious. She was thick. But fat? I don’t know about all that.
What blows my mind is that her body was much more like the catty bitch’s than those waifer thin instructors. She had the body that many of her students would have died to have. Who makes for a more inspirational teacher? An anorexic who lives on spirulina and air molecules? Or someone who knows how to balance good health and comfortable living, and who isn’t going to break a hip if they fall out of a pose?
You said that your wife is skinny in American terms. That makes me think that she’s more of a size 8 than a size 2. Which is fine. But I just want you to know that there are folks who are negatively judging her. Because haters gonna hate. They especially hate if you have the audacity to carry your size-8 ass in a confident, unabashed manner. So you may want to inform your wife she needs to lose the high self-esteem and wrap a Mexican sweater around that Mexican waist of hers. Don’t want to give the peanut gallery an excuse to judge her, now do we?