My father is 92, and has been exhibiting signs of dementia for months. He’s been at a rehab facility for the last six weeks, and they have have given him the Montreal test three times: he consistently scores a 15 out of 30; the social worker at the facility has told me that that score is considered “borderline” for being impaired enough that they would consider him to be unable to make his own decisions on healthcare, and invoke his power of attorney documents.
Regarding the repeated tests that he takes, the administration is running damage control on that.
Dr. Oz says (as noted in my link), that “Trump Keeps Returning for Health Checkups Because 'He Likes the Results.”
This is actually possible; maybe trump, being too stupid to realize that bragging about repeatedly acing the Montreal assessment is the opposite of the boast that he thinks it is, keeps doing it voluntarily. In its own way, that scenario is as bad as his doctors repeatedly urging him to take it.
It’s like a grown adult entering a competitive event meant for little kids but doesn’t have a strict rule against adults, winning easily, then repeatedly re-entering because they like the easy winning and bragging about how they crushed their competition.
I suppose it’s possible. It’s possible that he somehow has decided that it’s a measure of intelligence and brilliance, and a “30” means that you are a genius, rather than a measure of how cognitively impaired you are.
Thanks.
Regardless of whether he’s being urged to repeatedly take the Montreal assessment, or he’s voluntarily taking it, he clearly has decided that it’s a measure of intelligence and brilliance, and a “30” means that you are a genius, rather than a measure of how cognitively impaired you are.
Because he brags about it every freakin’ chance he can get.
There are several versions of the test. The subject is always given the same type of question, but the details change.
Here’s three versions:
Before catching Peter_Morris’s excellent post above, I wrote this:
This is the kind of thing which AI prompts are better on than most here allow. Anyway, there are some alternative words and numbers to reduce any training effect. AI led me to discussion here:
Alternate Versions of the Montreal Cognitive Assessment
When, as a worried-well senior, I was given several similar tests, at the Penn Memory Center, they repeatedly had me draw a clock. Someone who wanted to fool the test could practice drawing a clock with hands. But you cannot be sure what the time they will tell you to set the hands to.
In practice, if someone is taking this test, they already have some memory loss. They told me to come back next year. And there is no way I will remember enough to make it important that they change any questions.
As for Trump having the test more frequently than me, if true, that is at his direction. Consider that these are AFAIK military doctors and Trump is their commander in chief. Releasing false info on the commander’s health is not a war crime.
But what if they brought in a civilian neurologist, maybe from Johns Hopkins? I still think medical ethics would require the doctor act in the patient’s interest. Because of that, information publicly released is worthless. We need anonymous leaks.
One thing I wonder: Is Trump taking any of the FDA-approved drugs that are supposed to slow down the progression towards dementia? My Penn professor is against them. But we know from Trump’s COVID experience that when worried he tells his doc to give him multiple prescription drugs. See this Science article:
Here’s what is known about Trump’s COVID-19 treatment
I have no incentive to practice for such tests because I want results to be accurate. Trump has no incentive to practice because he can just order the docs to say he got them all correct.
The caudillo’s health is a big state secret. Live long enough, and we’ll find out the truth. Not now.
Can you score a 32?
'Cause that’s a White Rhino and a Dromedary!
There are rumors that he is receiving injections of Leqembi, hence the hand bruises and his end-of-month disappearances. The MRI Trump admitted to fits with this theory as well. We have also seen him napping during the day, which could be a side effect. More information here:
Leqembi was also approved by the FDA for “mission critical” reasons during a comms freeze that was put in place in January of 2025. So the number one priority at the FDA after Trump took office was to shut down all other communications and immediately approve this drug, days after Trump 2.0 started. Coincidence? You decide. I suppose we will find out eventually.
The obvious answer to the OP’s question is, “we don’t know.” But
Trump sees 22 medical specialists, appearing to set new bar for presidents
Trump saw about a dozen specialists for prior checkups, per past statements. The White House has declined to identify which physicians assessed him.
Does this mean anything, or is it just more of his need to outdo everyone?
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The figure also represents the most medical specialists to assess a president for a single visit, based on a review of public statements and records, prompting questions from outside physicians who said they were already skeptical of the White House’s disclosures around the nearly 80-year-old Trump’s health.“It is an extraordinary number,” said Jonathan Reiner, a longtime cardiologist for former vice president Dick Cheney. “What specialties do they represent? Why so many?”
White House officials said that the number was commensurate with the need to perform a “complete and preventive evaluation” of the president. Sean Barbabella, the president’s physician, said the assessment found that Trump was in “excellent health.”
“The involvement of multiple specialists reflects a comprehensive, multidisciplinary evaluation consistent with best practices for executive-level medical care,” the White House said in a statement.
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IOW blahblahblah.
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“We have nothing to hide,” the official said.
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BWAHahahahah. 
Full disclosure:
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Karine Jean-Pierre, who served as Biden’s press secretary, said at a February 2024 press briefing that a team of “20 doctors” participated in Biden’s medical evaluation at Walter Reed that year.
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Maybe it has to do with being old. I haven’t set foot in my PCP’s office for at least five years. I’ve zoomed a couple of times with the PA. Am I missing out? Many of you know that I’m afflicted with FOMO (fear of missing out). Where is MY team of specialists?
Like I said in the Trump is Dying Pit thread, Trump will say 22 specialists came to marvel at what a perfect specimen he is.
“These doctors – top of their fields – a cardiologist, a neurologist, a gynocologist, every ologist there is, they all said, with tears in their eyes, 'sir, sir, we’ve never seen anyone as perfect as you are.”
Well, there is an awful lot of him to look over…
Would that he could be overlooked as easily.
22 specialists?
Why can’t they at least leak what the specialties are?
PBS put this in their story:
Allowing ten minutes for the troops, that means 200 minutes for 22 doctors.
9 minutes a doctor, which has to include banter, a cursory examination, and the statement of perfect health.
Does anyone know who these Harvard doctors could be? Why would a normal medical school professor travel 400 miles to see a patient, any patient, even a normal president they voted for, who doesn’t have a serious problem? Surely there are representatives of even the most obscure specialty at one of the Bethesda Maryland federal hospitals – if not Walter Reed, then the National Institutes of Health Clinical Center – who could be forced to take a short time out of their schedule to humor a difficult patient.
I would be disappointed to learn that a doctor of mine runs off, to other cities, to cater to a VIP, even a nice one.
The more I think about 22 doctors in 200 minutes, the more insane it sounds.
People his age commonly have visual issues being monitored.
Did Trump let an ophthalmologist dilate his eye?
He wears eyeglasses for reading. Did they do a refraction?
Were there exams by both a front of the eye expert and a retina specialist?
Just eyes would eat up a third of the time.
Now, maybe they have all the needed equipment in the White House medical suite. But then they wouldn’t need 22 specialists at Walter Reed.
If a gynecologist saw him, we’ve got real problems.
I continue to be baffled at so many people trying to apply logic to what’s obviously bullshit. It isn’t lying. It’s bullshit. And by now I’d hope most of us could understand and recognize the difference.
Could 22 actual flesh and blood MDs of various specialties have walked through a room containing trump, glanced his way, and walked back out in the time available? Sure, that is physically and logistically possible.
But it isn’t necessary. Bullshit don’ need no steenkin’ fig leaves! It’s purely “Just spout what sounds good in the moment and move on.”
Trying to apply logic to BS feels like debunking. But instead it’s really just a form of sanewashing. It’s applying credence arguendo to what was claimed. IMO: Just Say No to sanewashing.
If a gynecologist saw him, he’s got real problems.