Hello asahi. Btw, what do the docs have you on for your TDS?
Huh. Somehow I never noticed this poster or recognize their name. Reading through this thread, I suppose that’s a good thing.
Yeah and isn’t he fat too?
Started drinking early, eh? Fuck off.
A few things, I don’t have a lot of time.
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No, Grand Dragons Shodan’s children are imported and I will continue to use the term. If Grand Dragon Shodan didn’t want his imported children to be referred to as imported children, then he shouldn’t treat them and use their presence as imported handbags. It would be analogous to being anti-autism or ableist and say in response to your criticism “No no, it’s OK, I’m not an ableist because I have an adopted autistic daughter”. This is a kind of virtue signaling that white people do all of the time with the lives of people of color; I’m having none of that virtue signaling shit with bodies of people of color. If you want to eat Grand Dragon Shodan’s shit. Have at it.
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Because you’re conflating racism and prejudice, I can’t really have a discussion with you. We’re living in two difference universes. From my end, racism requires power and people of color have none. Briefly, let me highlight this for you. People of color have been begging the federal government for “Jobs, Justice, and Peace” and several decades later, people of color still have the highest unemployment rates. A group of white women marched asking for increased teacher pay - I’ll let you figure out whether they were given their teacher pay or not. One group has institutional power, the other does not. This point of view is difficult for white folks to grasp because, individually, white folks don’t perceive themselves as prejudiced or having power.
Damn. Got to go. Out of time.
Well, that was wimpy.
So you’re not even going to attempt to defend what you were called out on. Is this it for your little experiment, then? You did it, you proved at least one person, asahi, will still be in your corner even after all that.
I think there’s no greater indictment than having **ashai **being the only person who supports you.
HF’s posts strike me as the same sort of thing we used to get with those MRA idiots that went on and on poisoning every thread they could shoehorn their personal obsessions into or starting multiple threads on the same topic and bumping them endlessly. Such posts fall into the “Krugerrands in the septic tank” rule - if one spends the time going through them thoroughly one can occasionally find something of worth, but how much excrement are you willing to swim through in order to do so?
As a result, I tend to simply scroll past his various angry, incoherent screeds. Whatever he’s attempting to accomplish here, his approach isn’t working.
I won’t speculate on what specific types of damage shaped Huey Freeman into the, ah, character, that he is today, but it didn’t take long after the departure of Starving Artist for another poster to assume the mantle of “person who always claims to be in a hurry to do other (presumably more important) things and yet somehow finds the time to compose countless eye-glazingly unreadable jeremiads that repeat the same tired/half-baked/offensive ideas over and over and over…” (I’ll say it again: we need to shorten that position title - it barely fits into the job listing form.)
I don’t support the words Huey uses, or the personal attacks he’s used–although Kdapt knows I am not immune from taking shitty shots at another, and I don’t think any of us are.
But I understand whence his anger. I support his emotions entirely. Not all of his behaviors, but definitely the emotion.
But if he wants people to care about the things he’s angry about, he has to stop being an asshole. That’s Human Interaction 101.
I’m not quite so sure about that, speaking strictly about his pointed criticism of white supremacism in American society. All approaches can be effective or ineffective, with different people, and in different circumstances. The “asshole” confrontational approach can sometimes work (in my younger days, I think this was more effective with me personally). As can the “let me talk about this gently and assure you that you’re a good person” approach. As can the many approaches in between.
Understanding is one thing. But do you think the great majority of decent and civilized black people would be gratified that you appear to hold them to a lower standard?
Those of us who have grown up with privilege - the first thing we should always do is shut up and listen, most especially when listening makes us uncomfortable . But that doesn’t mean we must suspend our critical faculties. It’s important to understand somebody’s lived experience, but that does not mean that their ideas and values must be held immune from examination and criticism. And whatever the color of someone’s skin, when someone tells us who they are - we should believe them.
Yeah, when he calls an adopted child “imported” and talks about calling child protective services on people who disagree with him he’s losing the public relations battle.
Racism requires power? What a stupid concept that is used to excuse some pretty vile ideas and people. It’s also untrue that so-called people of color have no power. Please put down the How to be an Opressed Victim for Dummies and get a real education.
Asshole.
Regards,
Shodan
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Yeah, I don’t see the asshole approach really working here. This board, with its “Don’t be a jerk” Zeroth Law, is not the place for it. **Huey **should have figured that out about a month ago.
Even if that’s true (it’s not but whatever), how does that make your behaviour here not racism? This isn’t the real world. It’s a super liberal message board. You’re not oppressed here. If anything you’re privileged here. You call white people animals and monsters and get away with it every time. Any white person saying blacks were animals and monsters would rightly get banned. So how do you justify being so goddamn racist here?
This. I’d actually go further. My lived experience has taught me that there’s nothing people are more reliably wrong about than their own lived experience. It’s subjective, selective, and filtered through a vast array of cognitive biases. Lived experience is possibly the worst form of evidence for anything. It’s also a tautology, and sounds really stupid.