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I realize that Trump (and Pence and much of the administration) is polarizing and many of us seem him as hateful.
However, we prefer that this not turn into hate board (or a board of feudists when Trump’s supporters begin to reply in kind). Some of this might be acceptable in The BBQ Pit, but please keep it out of Great Debates, Elections, IMHO, etc.
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I voted “After the news of Russian interference in election”, and I would say sometime in May 2017 (and the firing of James Comey) to July 2017 (and the publication of the infamous “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump” and “If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer” e-mail exchange).
Before that, I despised Trump and did not want him to be President of the United States, but I think that time period is when I really started thinking “We need to impeach the motherfucker!” (as opposed to “We need an anti-Trump landslide on November 3, 2020!”). Although the whole long “Waiting for Mueller” debacle does also make it hard to pin down where on the timeline I personally flipped to “impeach the motherfucker, already!”–“With all we’ve heard already in public, God only knows what will be in the Mueller Report!” :smack:
So, pretty damned early in his administration (from “really not liking the POTUS” in January 2017–and really not liking the President-Elect all the way back to the night of November 8, 2016–to thinking that the POTUS is fundamentally criminal and disloyal to the country by May-July 2017).
I voted “I don’t want Trump impeached” not because I voted for him but because there has been a campaign against him since he was a candidate. The Mueller Report shows how many people lied claiming he was a Russian Agent. The IG Report shows how the FBI lied to obtain a warrant on Carter Page. I’m still waiting for folks to go to jail over this because if this situation isn’t corrected this democracy is doomed.
Prior to Election Day 2008, there was someone with a T-shirt, “Impeach Obama.” Before Obama was elected.
Russian “asset”, and he is. The useful idiot type, to be charitable. Less than charitable, and it’s worse.
I voted before he was elected because of at least “Russia if you’re listening” and the not divesting himself of his business ties, which was going to be a minute-one emoluments violation. Politically, I know that wasn’t the smartest idea or even a realistic one, but a bloviating moron with no appreciable skills or ANY experience in anything but cons was a walking impeachment since he came down that stupid escalator. It wasn’t bitterness that my candidate lost (I didn’t wish impeachment on the Bushes immediately, and Obama wasn’t my '08 primary choice) or partisan. He had no business getting as far in the process as he did.
Did you read the same reports as everybody else?
I was perfectly happy for him to win the nomination. BECAUSE IT DIDN’T MATTER TO ME WHO WAS ON THE BALLOT. NO REPUBLICAN SHOULD EVER WIN ANY ELECTION!
Hearing about the requirement of a loyalty pledge that Trump requires of anyone he hires/appoints seemed like a immediate impeachable offense as those officers need to take a oath to serve the Constitution, so immediate conflict of interest, as Trump seems to be placing loyalty to himself over that of country - a violation of his oath of office. I would have liked that investigated but it was not. This would have been a impeachable offense as far as i am concerned and a hostel attempt to take over this country, a act of subversion and a traitorous act. I still wish that is brought forth.
Then the standard policy of separating children from their parents in a way, by not documenting it properly or at all, that the children may never return to their parents or to their native land as the records don’t exist to establish where they came from and some of the children are to young to be able to know their home country. It is a atrocity, not to mention the inhumane circumstances and abuse including rape these children have to endure. That to is impeachable for the same reason that ‘I was just following orders’ was not a excuse for the Nuremberg trials. May we pay a price for this atrocity as is right and just by the international community.
My choice is not listed, so I ticked “Some other scandal…”
It was when he was sworn in and he accepted the oath of his office. He was in violation of that oath from that moment forward. As Fair Rarity points out, he never divested himself of his business ties. Whether people understand the term emoluments or not, it is in the Constitution for a reason: The potential for self-enrichment and abuse of office at the expense of our national security is immense. And that is exactly what we’ve seen.
I knew he should not occupy the Oval Office based on his past record of misogyny and racism.
I was horrified when the Republican party overlooked and even encouraged his birtherism lunacy.
I became truly frightened when he invoked, “Russia, if you’re listening…” I knew then he was talking to them.
But I felt he should be impeached the moment he shat all over the oath of the office on January 20, 2017.
People keep saying this, but there’s no evidence of it. It’s IMO tragic and infuriating that the impeachment hearings didn’t move public opinion dramatically against Trump, but they certainly don’t seem to have moved it in his favor, either. The 40% of the people who are in his pocket aren’t shifting, but the 50% who see him for what he is aren’t, either.
I happen to believe that the Justice Department’s current interpretation, that the President cannot be federally indicted against his will, is correct. And the logical correlary of that is that the President can and should be impeached for any federal crime he has committed. Of which we knew of several before Trump assumed office: For simplicity’s sake, I’ll just mention the tax evasion, as one for which the evidence is perfectly clear-cut. So as soon as the possibility of Trump being impeached became relevant, I concluded that it should happen.
So much for facts in GD/Elections. Apparently, it’s all about feelings, now.
Rules for GD/Elections
Nothing there prohibiting feelings.
Take it up with Velocity. It’s in the thread title.
What’s the antecedent here?
That almost 20% of respondents came to a decision before the election that Trump should be impeached if elected?
How is that not possible?
Reread the Op. We answered correctly and honestly. This one is all about our opinions sometime in the past. You seem to be confused.
I am a middle of the road Independent.
I supported the Mueller Report, etc.
The last straw for me was the Ukraine bribes.
However, Trump will be impeached by the House; but acquitted by the Senate.
End of story.
Holy cow!! Really???
I thought the Ukraine recording was evidence of an impeachable offense.
I think it’s informative that only 11% of the respondents don’t want trump impeached while 45% of the general population do not want trump impeached. We have all but driven out dissent on this board. This board has become a liberal echo chamber.