I’m not down with that tweak. Of course we need to do things differently. But “abandoning our principles” absolutely won’t get us anywhere. We’ve got to figure out how to deal with the liars.
This isn’t the first time in history that the left has faced an enormous stream of lies. Heather Cox Richardson (I think) wrote recently about how slavers in the South banned accurate information from making its way to poor Whites, and how successful they were. Shit got bad. We gotta figure out how to keep it from getting that bad again.
Agree completely that abandoning our principles won’t get us anywhere. Arguably, the US left abandoned most of its principles over the last 40-50 years as we’ve morphed into a center-right party, albeit still well left of the reactionaries who are our current opposition.
One can only win a war of ideas when your ideas get through to everyone, not just your own choir. Breaking down the information silos is IMO a necessary first step. Then we can start planning what to say once we’d at least be heard saying it.
You make it sound like the school performed some sort of sex change operation. I am under the impression that it is pretty much along the lines of:
(Student) Treat me as a female now.
(School) OK.
(Parents) Excuse Us? Our Son is Male.
I don’t know about “against their will,” unless it was more like:
(Student) Treat me as a female now.
(School) Not happening. Use the boys’ bathrooms and the boys’ locker room.
I presume that video was intended as sarcasm; as in, “We finally, after all this time, we were able to catch Trump in a lie!!!” As if that’s not pretty much a daily occurrence.
Yeah, I suppose. I really don’t watch TV except for re-runs of stuff. If we ever do get him. I’d like to see that on every corner of America. Parades I guess.
Those second-grade boys get pretty tired of it, too. So much so that, when they grow up, some of them seek out difficult surgeries just so that people will stop mistaking them for girls. If they can get a psychiatrist to agree with what’s plainly obvious to themselves, that is, and won’t just tell them that since they weren’t born with a penis, they’re out of luck.
It’s Republicans who are trying to force sex changes on people. Democrats are willing to accept folks as they are.
Where are the people eating dogs, or people released from insane asylums to charge the border?
The issue is, if people had enough critical thinking there would be no need for pushback, as the claims would need evidence in the first place.
So sadly, the same reason that claims like this land at all, is the same reason that pushback never works. Most of the people that hear the talking point will never hear the pushback, because they don’t want to hear from such sources. And those that do, will ignore it, either for no reason at all, or because there’s this AI / misattributed image, so there.
I’m pretty certain I heard everyday for 10+ years everything out of his mouth was a lie.
People said “if his mouth is moving he’s lying”.
Judges and jury found him guilty of being a liar.
Porn stars said he lied.
His previous collegues, business associates, much of his previous Whitehouse said he lies.
Harris and many politicians said it repeatedly.
It fell on deaf ears.
Cherry picking each thing he lied about, made up from whole cloth or just spewed from his tiny mouth is not gonna make you feel better.
The OP’s question is the same that I have: where are the boys who were turned into girls during recess?
I know (thanks to a couple of friends who went through it all) that is is not a junior school recess-length project. It takes about a year, requiring psychiatric assessments, hormone treatments, presenting as the opposite sex for a year, and even electrolysis, to get rid of traces of a beard. It’s not easy, and the decision to do so is not taken lightly. It certainly is not as easy as nine-year-old Johnny saying, “Miss Smith, I’d like to be Jenny today,” and Johnny is swept into surgery in the nurse’s office.
So I echo the OP’s question: where are these kids? We’re Dopers; we demand cites. And better cites than, “Well, my brother’s girlfriend has a co-worker that has a kid who knows another kid at a different school, who says that the principal took Johnny away one day, and turned him into Jenny, in a dress and everything.”
Never mind the citation. It douesn’t seems to occur to them that, never mind the time for counseling and the hormonal work-up, bottom surgery is not exactly an outpatient procedure. In either direction it runs to well over $100,000. Little Timmy isn’t going to come home in the afternoon with a brand-new vag paid for by… somebody.
Or perhaps more like…
(Rep.-elect Sarah McBride (D-DE)) Treat me as a female now.
(Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC)) Not happening. Use the men’s bathrooms in the Capitol. I am introducing HR 1579.
The issue with this is that it’s also something that is said of all politicians. Hence why many trump supporters (and even surrogates on TV) shrug at the latest trump lie and claim he’s the same as everyone else.
The difference of course is that most of the time real politicians only spin events, they rarely engage in provable lies, because they would be exposed.
Trump (and now all of the GOP) shamelessly lie about real events, and then just invent whatever fictional events on top.
When it comes to things like the sex changed kids, and the prison populations coming here, a reasonable question he should be asked is: who told you that?
Interesting, Whereas allowing biological males into single-sex facilities, such as restrooms, locker rooms, and changing rooms designed for women, jeopardizes the safety and dignity of Members, officers, and employees of the House who are female:
And who are these “biological males” that this bill seeks to thwart in their “safety jeopardizing”? A Member, Delegate, Resident Commissioner, officer, or employee of the House!