[QUOTE=SmartAleq]
Tell you what–when you’ve spent two hours post partum having over 100 stitches placed in your perineum, then tried to have sex seven weeks later with a vagina that feels like a painful railroad track, then had to do Kegel exercises faithfully for every single day of the subsequent thirty two years in order to avoid peeing yourself every time you sneeze or cough, you can have an opinion on this subject, okay? Until then I think your cavalier attitude is pretty unwarranted.
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I read dear comrade mswas’s comment not as cavalier, but implying that he has personal acquaintance with a vagina unwrecked by childbirth.
Which, one would hope, means it and its owner recovered superbly, and not that its prenatal condition made wreckage irrelevant…
[QUOTE=SmartAleq]
It’s not for everybody and anyone who casually dismisses a woman’s right to remain childless is tacky and rude and could use a resounding cunt punt.
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Make sure you use REALLY big shoes when you do this, or it might not end up nearly as “fullfilling a feeling” as one might have hoped. At least on the punters end. The puntee on the otherhand…
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip]
I read dear comrade mswas’s comment not as cavalier, but implying that he has personal acquaintance with a vagina unwrecked by childbirth.
Which, one would hope, means it and its owner recovered superbly, and not that its prenatal condition made wreckage irrelevant…
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You know that there are doctors out there who will, for a price, do a little “tighten up” while repairing episiotomies, right? Maybe he did get one back in better shape than it started, who knows? Bet it’s pretty cool when you can throw out the harness with the two by four after the sprog arrives!
[QUOTE=SmartAleq]
You know that there are doctors out there who will, for a price, do a little “tighten up” while repairing episiotomies, right?
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Yeah, and some of them have had their asses sued for malpractice when they “tightened them up” a little too much, or without asking the woman if she wanted it first.
[QUOTE=bdgr]
Oh i don’t think thats what I’d be explaining to you. I’d be explaining to you why you are face first on the floor in a pain compliance hold and how I would be turning you over to a peace officer to take you before a magistrate for assault by contact…and how I would use what ever force I deemed neccesary to detain you as allowed by the code of criminal procedure.
At least thats what happened last time someone shoved me. They got a fine out of it, and me and the cops got a good laugh.
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You’d never get anywhere. Every cop I’ve ever met would say, “You shouldn’t have stopped in the door like there was no one behind you dumbass.”,
[QUOTE=mswas]
You’d never get anywhere. Every cop I’ve ever met would say, “You shouldn’t have stopped in the door like there was no one behind you dumbass.”
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You’ve asked every cop you ever met what they’d do in this situation? Really? How extraordinarily prescient.
[QUOTE=mswas]
Besides, I’d kick your ass.
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[QUOTE=SmartAleq]
Tell you what–when you’ve spent two hours post partum having over 100 stitches placed in your perineum, then tried to have sex seven weeks later with a vagina that feels like a painful railroad track, then had to do Kegel exercises faithfully for every single day of the subsequent thirty two years in order to avoid peeing yourself every time you sneeze or cough, you can have an opinion on this subject, okay? Until then I think your cavalier attitude is pretty unwarranted.
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Oh I see, so if I don’t kowtow to the outlier my opinion is irrelevant?
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip]
I read dear comrade mswas’s comment not as cavalier, but implying that he has personal acquaintance with a vagina unwrecked by childbirth.
Which, one would hope, means it and its owner recovered superbly, and not that its prenatal condition made wreckage irrelevant…
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Yea, that’s about right. Not to downplay the physical feat that carrying a child to term is or anything.
I just find it sort of, ‘odd’, that it’s so common for people to find the continuation of the species so detestable these days. The thing that keeps me from being totally depressed about it is knowing that the future of the species is in my hands and not the hands of those that find the thought of continuing their genetic legacy detestable.
I’m really not terribly offended by the opinions of the ‘child free’, my attitude is best described as, ‘quizzical’. I just don’t understand it. I’ve always wanted kids and I enjoy having a child, she’s fabulous, one of the most fun people I know. I have trouble fathoming the purpose people find in life without the notion of it’s impact upon the species. Not that I am saying that they cannot find purpose, only that it’s an oddity to me personally.
[QUOTE=mswas]
Yea, that’s about right. Not to downplay the physical feat that carrying a child to term is or anything.
I just find it sort of, ‘odd’, that it’s so common for people to find the continuation of the species so detestable these days.
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Perhaps it is a reaction to overcrowding/overpopulation…?
A few people electing to forgo reproduction may be of benefit to a species that is outbreeding its resources. There’s no people shortage, for sure, I’m sure enough people will continue to reproduce to guarantee the next generation.
[QUOTE=Broomstick]
Perhaps it is a reaction to overcrowding/overpopulation…?
A few people electing to forgo reproduction may be of benefit to a species that is outbreeding its resources. There’s no people shortage, for sure, I’m sure enough people will continue to reproduce to guarantee the next generation.
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I totally agree, though it’s going to be a bitch when we war over school vs medicare funding in 50 years at the polls.
I just find it sort of, ‘odd’, that it’s so common for people to find the continuation of the species so detestable these days. The thing that keeps me from being totally depressed about it is knowing that the future of the species is in my hands and not the hands of those that find the thought of continuing their genetic legacy detestable.
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It isn’t terribly common, as this thread has evidenced. As for finding “continuation of the species detestable”, we’ve had a number of threads on the topic, here is the most recent. Many people have very good reasons for it.
And just because you’ve always wanted a kid and love every minute of it doesn’t mean it will be that way for everyone. As to your opinion that people that don’t like children are subhuman, well you aren’t much better than the nosy bint the OP was complaining about in the first place.
[QUOTE=SmartAleq]
Tell you what–when you’ve spent two hours post partum having over 100 stitches placed in your perineum, then tried to have sex seven weeks later with a vagina that feels like a painful railroad track, then had to do Kegel exercises faithfully for every single day of the subsequent thirty two years in order to avoid peeing yourself every time you sneeze or cough, you can have an opinion on this subject, okay? Until then I think your cavalier attitude is pretty unwarranted.
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That makes my mother’s experience sound quite pleasant. (I wasn’t properly positioned for delivery, and the doctors didn’t realize it until I was on the way out.) I have heard some real horror stories about post-childbirth incontinence, particularly in third-world countries where treatment of any sort isn’t widely available.
[QUOTE=Queen Bruin]
It isn’t terribly common, as this thread has evidenced. As for finding “continuation of the species detestable”, we’ve had a number of threads on the topic, here is the most recent. Many people have very good reasons for it.
And just because you’ve always wanted a kid and love every minute of it doesn’t mean it will be that way for everyone. As to your opinion that people that don’t like children are subhuman, well you aren’t much better than the nosy bint the OP was complaining about in the first place.
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I thought the point of the post was that the nosy bint did it unsolicitated? I didn’t do it unsolicitated, I posted my opinion on a public message board. Also, I didn’t say that there was anything wrong with not WANTING children, only in not LIKING children. I find that life is a lot more enjoyable when you give a freer hand to sophistication in context. You made some nasty remarks about children, I riposted. I think you are the one who is really getting worked up about this. I could care less whether you like children or not in the long run. We’ll fight it out at the polls when we are octagenarians and I am concerned for the welfare of my Grandchildren, and you are concerned for yourself.
SmartAleq I don’t want you think I am lacking in sympathy for your story or the story of whomever you are describing, only that I don’t think that this experience invalidates my opinion.
Remember I’m the guy that pushes people in real life.