Some women do it just to point out their own beauty. Other women do diss them, but its because they are stuck on themselves, not because they are beautiful. Drama Queens. Or Attention Whores. Take your pick.
Some women are very catty toward other women (and sometimes men too, but women tend to notice it). And it can be about anything from being pretty, to being thin, to being smart, to being well dressed, to having money or a boyfriend. Which means that even the women being drama queens are right sometimes - because sometimes the Drama Queen is in the room with “Miss I’m-so-insecure-I-need-to-take-you-down-with-me.”
Women, in my experience, are worst about this (both brands) around high school. Better in college, and its only the ones that didn’t grow up that are still doing it at 40.
In my experience, many of the girls who really believe themselves to be beautiful and brag about it are average at best. Ive only met a handful that really were good-looking.
I should clarify – I don’t doubt that attractive women are disliked by other women for their looks. People are petty that way, especially when they feel threatened for one reason or another.
After my last post, I remembered that I have had not one, but two female co-workers at different companies mad at me for being the person their SO cheated on them with in their dreams. Both times, the woman walked up to me and said, “I can’t look at you without getting pissed off.” Both times, I had never even met their SOs. And in both cases, the women were attractive, so it’s not like I was a threat or anything. I don’t think I give off a boyfriend-poaching vibe…ugh, I hope not. It was bizarre the first time it happened, and completely mind-boggling the next time it happened. I still don’t know what to think about it.
Gundy, this is just a thought, but maybe they feel threatened by your looks/intelligence/other admirable traits? That would certainly explain why you appeared as the Jezebel in the dream and why they handled it so bitchily.
I guess it’s possible, but honestly, the idea that any woman would feel threatened by me is pretty laughable to me. I’m reasonably smart, okay, but there is next to nothing seductive about me (I am a giant snorting dork, really), and they were both bright, pretty, highly likable women themselves. In both cases, after a couple of days they were both back to normal (more or less). It was just so strange that the same thing happened twice. Maybe I shouldn’t have told them about my boat, the ManThief.
BTW, as an attractive woman, I get it quite often, not that I care, but some women can be vicious bitches. I am 34 and look about 24 at times and this bugs many…and I dont’ care but I look good.
Life is good, I love life and if you need to put down another person, you need to fucking get a fucking clue and lighten up…there are worse things in life like diabetes, stroke, and such. Fucking get a clue.
In any type of social gathering, I can VERY much ascertain the tension and passive-aggressive attitude that women will harbor for the one woman who’s getting the most male attention, wether she’s beautiful or not.
I’ve heard it a million times…behind her back, the popular girl is called:
A Slut
A Bitch
A Moron
And much much more. And every time, these comments come from women who don’t know or are barely aquainted with this popular girl.
Seen it from all ages and all socio-economic backgrounds.
I think it’s pretty funny myself. For all the pop psychology that gets sprouted about men defining their territory, women can be pretty damned vicious and mean-spirited themselves in the same way.
Keith Berry, I’m just wondering, in situations like that what do the men think of the girls saying things about the popular girl? I know many girls who do it that think they’re showing their assertiveness and thusly attracting men, but I can’t imagine that working on too many.
Only one of my female friends seems hostile toward other women, but not toward individuals, just toward the class of tall, skinny women. Whenever the topic comes up, she gets fixated on the idea that ALL men want ONLY these women. Sometimes she adds “blonde” to her fixation.
I am a man, and when I tell her that I don’t LIKE skinny women, she insists that I’m either lying or that I don’t know my own preferences.
What’s odd is that my friend is built the way most men like, has always had a very active sex life, and is very smart and independent. She has never had any reason to worry that the tall, thin. blonde women are taking all the men, and has no reason to be jealous of anyone for anything except wealth.
My other female friends don’t hate others, they just hate themselves. “I’m too skinny”, “I’m too fat”, “My hair is too stringy”… etc etc.
It’s not about being beautiful, tall, skinny, or whatever.
My flatmate is STUNNING. The kind of beauty that turns heads in the street. And she’s a lovely person.
She’s not arrogant.
She doesn’t have an attitude of entitlement.
She doesn’t manipulate men and act in a passive-aggressive way.
She doesn’t pull a “poor little me, women hate me” routine.
She’s not spoilt.
It’s the fact that so many gorgeous people expect the world to hold them to different standards that pisses me off.
It’s a complicated topic which I can’t really look at objectively. I’m in high school, so the pettiness and insecurity is, of course, at an all time high. For instance, I attended the first meeting yesterday of an all girls’ club. I and several of my friends were new members, but we acclimated easily and were soon talking and laughing with everyone. One girl arrived who I had always perceived as popular. She wasn’t talking with anyone that I could see, and seemed (to me) uncomfortable being there. Later on, we all introduced ourselves and said an interesting fact about ourselves - hers was that she was a model at somewhere or another. There was a general murmuring of “how interesting”, and the girl after her prefaced her introduction with “Well, I’m not a model.” Anyway, this girl, who was fairly pretty, very tan, and blonde, pretty much stood apart from the group. Whether it was because of her unfamiliarity with the people there (since the other girls were at least loosely acquainted with one another) or the other girls were too jealous to approach her is up for debate. I have my own (probably biased) opinion of it, and she probably has hers. Objectively, I have no idea - but probably a little of column A and a little of column B.
I do too, and I don’t in the least consider myself beautiful. In my mind my looks are ok, nothing special, but I’ve encountered more than one friend who must disagree; but I honestly think it’s a self-esteem issue with some women who, for some reason, have really negative- and generally inaccurate- opinions about their own looks, since it only comes from women who also make deogratory comments about their own appearances. They get angry because I’m nearly always oblivious to being looked at by men. Red hair is eye-catching, what can I say? So are many shiny objects- I like shiny objects too. Oh look! Prismatic stickers! Moving on… People have been looking at me my whole life because of something I was born with, so I stopped noticing as a shy little kid to prevent being embarassed by constant attention((but I find it very awkward that strange older women still make comments on my hair. I’m 26! isn’t that something reserved for cute little kids so you can make them turn pink?) It’s not as though guys usually stare after a brief glance, anyway(which confirms my opinion about my looks). At least I think they don’t stare.
And I’ve gotten some snippy comments about how it must be easier for me, since I’m “cute,” to deal with guys…uh huh, yeah, which is why I’m perpetually single and half of them who make the comments aren’t. All I can conclude is things must look very different from inside their heads.
