I do find 2,000 calories a day to be what I need to feel satisfied. I also find that I can budget chips, ice cream, chocolate, and all kinds of good stuff into that 2,000 calories a day within reason. I try to eat healthy foods the majority of the time because I can eat more of them in my calorie budget. I also have come to enjoy healthy foods more than junk most of the time. Sometimes I still want some junk, though, and I find that it is better to eat a small portion of ice cream if I’m craving it than to deny myself that ice cream. Denying myself a food makes me more likely to feel sorry for myself and end up caving and eating a larger portion than I would have if I would have just had a reasonable portion to start with.
You know, I’ve been away for a while so forgive me for not addressing your ignorant bullshit sooner. I would surmise it’s lucky for you, you just bray like a jackass from behind a computer screen. I know several big women that would slap the chrome off your ass if your one nut dropped far enough for your piddly ass to scrape up the courage to say something to one of these beautiful women you sneer down your nose at. I can think of at least one that would spit in your face before doing so. Man, you should be ashamed of yourself. :rolleyes:
Any graffiti under there, you shameless troll?
Oh, and the same applies if your female.
Bless you, Omegaman, bless you! I have kind of been waiting (hoping) for this to circle back to scrambledeggs and his BS.
Nice little temper tantrum there dude. Evokes images of angry fat women unleashing all their pent-up rage on the rest of us.
And “beautiful”? :rolleyes: Sure, there is a small percentage of men who are attracted to fat women, but to the vast majority, fat is not beautiful. If it were, everyone would be scarfing the Little Debbies. Obesity is viewed as both unattractive and unhealthy. Sorry if this sends you into another fit of spluttering outrage, but that’s just the truth.
Don’t worry your ugly little head, sock. You’ll be gone in a minute.
Oh shut up. Just because a person is fat does not automatically mean they sit around scarfing vast quantities of junk. And the opposite of “fat” isn’t “beautiful,” it’s “thin.” The opposite of “beautiful” is “ugly.” Your “truth” is not necessarily everyone else’s.
And by the way, there’s a lot more to a person than their body size. Yes, I’m overweight (sitting here in my pile of Big Mac wrappers :rolleyes: ), and my husband finds me attractive – not because he’s a chubby chaser (he’s not), but because I have many other qualities that he likes and admires. And also because he’s not a small-minded little shit.
Just sitting my fat butt down long enough to wonder this: Why on earth does anyone care how fat or skinny we are, and why on earth would anyone assume that it’s important to anyone else to be sexy/desirable/beautiful/hot to the general public anyway?
I used to be skinny and miserable. I actually worried (I find this hard to believe now, but I’m a lot older and more experienced than I was then) about being “fatter” than my 120 or so pounds. Slowly, as I aged and had kids and my metabolism slowed down, I’ve gained. Now I’m fat (closer to 200) and fairly happy. I’m trying a very, very mild sort of diet to lose just a bit, because I don’t want to outgrow my admittedly frumpy wardrobe (don’t need anything fancy to deliver newspapers or take care of old folks). Overall, I feel better now–both mentally and physically–than I ever have.
The people whose opinions matter to me are the ones who sleep under my roof. And they pretty much love me regardless. My daughter, bless her, loves my fat butt–because it “makes the water in the tub higher.” How can I argue with that logic?
Do strange men on the street find me attractive? Do they ogle my comely physique when I walk by? Probably not. And neither do I look longingly at their usually-less-than-perfect bods.* I’m 43 years old, for heaven’s sake. I’ve got kids to raise, money to budget, dogs to get to the vet, and books to return to the library. Do I seriously look like I care if some anonymous young know-it-all thinks I’m fuckable or not?
Best,
karol
*Unless they’re wearing toolbelts. Of course.
But haven’t you heard? Women are valued only for their looks, and if you don’t fit into a very narrow prescribed norm of beauty, well, then, you’re barely human. It doesn’t matter how good you feel about yourself, it doesn’t matter that you’re raising an amazing child, it doesn’t matter how funny or smart or kind hearted you are, because at the end of the day you are only valued for what you look like on the outside. Your sole purpose as a woman is to look good, and if you don’t look good, either mutilate yourself to the point that you do or don’t leave the house.
So, fat chicks, lose weight! Skinny chicks, get some boobs! Old chicks, don’t wrinkle or go gray! Hairy chicks, become hairless! Tall chicks, get shorter! Short chicks, grow a couple inches!
I mean, I hate to be cynical, but that’s the message I get. And I was able to ignore it for a long time, until I lost some weight. People we so much nicer to me that I decided, come hell or high water, I wasn’t going back to being a fatty. So, like those concentration camp victims **Completely **lauded above, I starved myself for a while, till I realized how stupid I was being. Yeah, I lost weight, but I also endangered my health and fucked up my metabolism. So, even though I ate a healthy, vegan diet and exercised a bunch, I gained it all back plus some more.
Thus, I’m also a bit cynical about people who give me crap about my weight with a thin veneer of “I’m concerned about your health.” Bullshit. I disgust you, and you can’t look at me without the fear that one day you might look like me. So, you clutch that “health concern” excuse, and pray at the alters of Atkins and South Beach and BMI that you can have the moral strength to keep the fat away.
And as much as I plug up my ears and chant, “Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me!” words *do *hurt. And everytime I walk down the street, I know a lot of people are wishing I didn’t leave my house. So excuse me if I get a little of the fat girl sass when some trolls on the internet decide they need to tell me shit I get everyday, that because of my weight I’m worthless and lazy and emotionally disturbed and immoral and, hopefully, easy. Because contrary to popular belief, there are plenty of men who are more than willing to bed a fat girl and they tend to be rather aggressive. And, you may not believe it, but I’m happy and healthy. I have a great life. I just don’t need to hear this shit, and I don’t need people telling other women (or men) this shit.
Your mileage may vary, and so forth.
I second this.
Many of my friends, co-workers, and family members are fat. Each and every one of them, without exception, has a *horrible * diet. They always seem to be eating, and the food they eat is garbage. Fat-laden, greasy crap.
I used to be fat. But I learned the secrets to not being fat. That was 15 years ago, and I have kept the weight off.
On a few occasions I have been asked for advice. “You’re no longer fat. Tell me how to do it.” I say to them, “Well, for starters, stop eating all fried foods. If it’s fried, pretend it’s poison. Once you do that, we’ll move on to other things.” They look at me like I’m from another planet. “Give up fried foods?! Forever? Are you kidding?” After she asked me for advice, I told one female friend to throw her deep fryer in the trash. She gasped and responded, “No way am I going to do that. It was a gift from my mother!” :rolleyes:
I have an aunt who weighs around 400 lbs. She is constantly complaining about being fat. I told her she should eat less and eat better. Her response? "It’s not my fault I’m fat! I eat like a bird! Diets don’t work for me! I have [insert bogus disease] and suffer from [insert bogus disease]. etc. etc.” Later I took a look in her refrigerator, and what did I see? *Pounds * of butter, cake, fried foods, etc. I know my uncle doesn’t eat that crap; he’s in good shape. That only leaves one person… the “diets don’t work for me” person.
Years of observations - along with my own experience - has convinced me that fat people are fat because they eat too much and eat the wrong foods. Many are also lazy, which only exacerbates the problem. They are denial that it’s their own damn fault. This is the cold, hard reality.
Nowadays I no longer give advice on how to lose weight. It’s a waste of time.
You suck. Go to hell.
I saw ten cars drive past my house today, and they were all blue. Therefore all cars must be blue! :rolleyes:
Truth hurts.
Now go back to eating.
I want to make it absolutely clear - again - that I do not. If you’re happy the way you are, great. I simply also want to make it absolutely clear that if someone is not happy the way they are, they can in the vast, vast majority of cases change it. It’s not down to luck, it’s down to effort.
I wasn’t eating. And FWIW, not that it matters to you, I’m not fat.
But you’re still a jerk.
He may be using a wider than necessary brush, but what he says is true. I’m willing to concede that there’s a small percentage of people who have a glandular problem of some sort that prevents their metabolism from working properly. But the vast majority of people who are overweight are overweight because they eat crap.
If he truly is just a jerk and is being less than honest, I implore you to educate me and point out the falsehoods.
You are absolutely correct. It is the broad brush I am objecting to. I simply didn’t have the time to get into as I was getting ready for work, and won’t have time because I am at work.
I object to broad brushes and sweeping generalities. And superior tones. That’s all. No more, no less.
Until later… I must work.
I think for this debate we need to separate overweight from extremely obese. It’s not that uncommon to be overweight and have a healthier diet and exercise more than a normal weight person but to be hugely obese usually takes some serious eating.
[belated slow clap for Liberty’s post]
The shallowness and ignorance, it burns.
It’s been my experience to notice that skinny women have to practically starve themselves and eat pathetic, appalling diets to maintain their “natural” physique. Then, they implant silicone into their tits to make up for their lack of figure.
And yeh, a good portion of fat people eat like shit. Most have given up. But if everyone on the planet ate exactly the same diet – 1600 calories, every day, the same exact meals for 10 years – you’d still end up with some that would be overweight, some that are skinny and some that look average.