For some strange reason the home page of the Studebaker Drivers Club doesn’t want to load in Opera. I hit it with IE and it loads just fine with lots of pictures, etc., but I only get a few lines of text when I try to load it with Opera. If I cut & paste the urls for the other pages on the site, they load just fine. Do I need to adjust the settings on Opera, or is it just the way that they’ve coded the home page that prevents it from loading?
No problem with Mozilla either.
You can run that page through HTML validator to see if the code is correct.
Just as another datum, it works fine in Netscape. But, there’s a lot of code there, so it’s difficult to tell what the problem is. However, two lines of interest are these:
<meta name=“GENERATOR” content=“Microsoft FrontPage 5.0”>
<meta name=“ProgId” content=“FrontPage.Editor.Document”>
Could you copy whatever you do see and post it here?
Oh gawd. Run away, run away!
I noticed the closing script code, just before the closing head tag, lacks the “>”.
On occassion, I’ve seen the same page in IE,Netscape and Opera, where in one case, absolutely nothing appears on the screen.
IE seems to be the most tolerant of minor coding errors. How a page is displayed or even if it’s displayed at all depends on the browser used and seems to be one of life’s unsolved mysteries.
Well, running it through the validator returned about 280 errors. I see it also has one of the strangest lines of HTML I’ve ever seen:
<script language=“JavaScript” ></head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head </head>
I have a hard time believing that FrontPage put that in.
I believe the word “lazy” is a more accurate term.
Or, to be more blunt, IE is like a cheap whore. It will go to bed with any page just to gain market share.
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- Uh, no, error-tolerant, which is a good thing. IE shows everything right, and all the plug-ins for IE work right. If a page doesn’t show up properly in another browser, try IE, and it probably will. And conversely, if it doesn’t work in IE, it probably won’t work in any other browser either. (unless you go back to pages written just for Netscape 4.7)
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- Uh, no, error-tolerant, which is a good thing. IE shows everything right, and all the plug-ins for IE work right. If a page doesn’t show up properly in another browser, try IE, and it probably will. And conversely, if it doesn’t work in IE, it probably won’t work in any other browser either. (unless you go back to pages written just for Netscape 4.7)
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- Now as to FrontPage, well, that’s another story. It’s great for making fast & simple pages, but it certainly has limitations, and its own “preview” doesn’t always work correctly (it doesn’t show you what the page will look like in IE).
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And conversely, if you are writing a webpage, for the love of all that is good and pure do not test it in Internet Explorer. You have no idea if it’ll work for browsers that follow the rules.
…case in point…
As much as I love Opera, I still have to break out IE every once in awhile. Opera is an amazing browser but certain things just don’t work. I can’t watch videos of any kind inside Opera, I have to save them. Certain images won’t show up in Opera but they will in IE, and Opera won’t read the Spoiler tags on this board.
You can read the spoiler tags in Opera by pressing Ctrl-G (or click the little “Toggle between author mode and user mode” icon next to the address line). Do it again to hide the spoiler again.
When I load the page in Opera all I get is:
ebring?ring=studebaker;id=26;prev5">Previous 5 Sites | Skip Previous | Previous | Next | Skip Next | Next 5 Sites | Random Site | List Sites Submit your Web Page
Just for fun test the speed of your ISP
And a small gif image of a stopwatch for the speed test thingie. I’m curious about this, because the page has NEVER loaded in Opera, even before they were using the current design.
Okay, it looks like it skips over 98% of the document, and begins rendering mid-tag:
<a HREF=“http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=studebaker;id=3;prev”>
I can’t think of a reason why it would start there, but it sounds like everything after that is okay.
Whoops. I copied the wrong tag. But it’s a very similar one.
– iCab
Okay, that’s good, but all those errors are attributable to the one line I posted earlier.
Hmm, so it is. Sorry, hate to be redundant like that. Turning on options for longer error report only yields this different entry after all those that appear due to <head> over and over again:
JavaScript Error (88/11): Primary expression expected
It’s the missing “>” on the </SCRIPT tag. I just edited the page on my machine to add the tag, at which point it starts behaving fine.
This is the second time I’ve seen this exact problem - a missing “>” on a SCRIPT tag that causes the page not to be displayed at all in Opera. The time before, I e-mailed them notice that simply adding that character would fix an error and make their page more compatible, but they apparently didn’t care because it’s still not fixed.
That doesn’t work for me. I have to manually set the user mode to reject page fonts and colours, which I don’t like because I use that mode separately anyway.
Whoa for real? That fixed everything? Kudos at finding an easy fix. Someone should probably tell them…