Because the idea is that to get the object, you would kill someone to take it. That’s how badly you want it. It isn’t as intuitive to think of a way you could get something by raping or molesting.
Because killing (bad as it is) is actually a way to achieve some other, often utilitarian goals - that’s why bad people hire hit men. “I’d kill for this inheritance”.
Rape and molestation, aside from unusual circumstances, are generally ends in themselves.
Therefore it makes more sense to say “I’d kill for a _____”. It’s deliberate exaggeration, but it makes sense. Saying “I’d rape for _____” doesn’t, because rape isn’t usually a way to get things.
Edit. D’oh. Ninja’d.
I suppose that I wasn’t thinking of “I’ll kill you and take this from you” but more like “I’d be a killer for hire for a _________.” If Malthus’ hit man analogy is correct, the phrase “I’d kidnap for a ________.” would be useful as well.
Yes, but killing is way more extreme than kidnapping. The point is not just “I’d do something illegal for this,” but “I’d do what is arguably the worst possible thing for this.”
“I’d sell my mother for a Kitkat bar.”
I’d mildly inconvenience a complete stranger for a drink.
I dunno.
“I’d rape for an orgasm”
See? That just sounds much better than kill, doesn’t it?
And I regularly have. For free too, at times.
You mean you haven’t… boned up on him?
Okay, I looked this up. I’ve heard the story/myth before but never actually looked into the facts.
Here’s what I learned, beyond the standard myth:
Dermoid cysts can grow teeth and hair!:eek:
No, really, :eek::eek::eek:
? Other than the threatening with a knife, and substitute in my sjambok for the shotgun this could have been any number of consensual evenings spent with an old flame… Maybe I should hook the 2 of them up, he likes it rough.
Are you serious? You don’t see the necrohumor potential in that? Incorporate “baby” ino the joke and you’ve got a winner right there.
Who would you rape for a Klondike bar?
This is precisely the point of disagreement though:
IS it gallows humor? Or is it just regular humor?
I have no doubt that you enjoy joking about female circumcision and baby rape as gallows humor, but the enjoyment of men being raped or disfigured seems to have a different tone.
You can enjoy prison rape jokes on Leno. Is this because, for that one subject, Leno goes for edgy gallows humor… or is it because a lot of people don’t see it as edgy? Don’t see it as gallows humor at all?
And is this at all relevant to the fact that prison rape is quite common and people don’t seem too concerned about stopping it?
I’m not saying you or anyone in this thread sees men being raped and disfigured as regular humor, rather than gallows humor, but you can understand that the prevalence of such jokes, and their use in circumstances where no other humor that could be called “edgy” or “gallows humor” would be used, is suspicious.
Can any man read about this without crossing his legs a little?
When the Bobbitt story first aired, newscasters did not use the “p-word” on TV. They had a helluva time describing exactly what she did, but finally got down to brass [del]balls[/del] tacks: She cut off her husband’s penis.
They are now saying that she may have attacked her husband because of fidelity issues. And that surgery to reattach his penis was not successful. 
Anyone.
Really, the anti-male misandry of this board is just shocking. No one would be making jokes like this if, say, a woman microwaved her baby to death.
“I’d kill a baby for an orgasm.”
Christ. That shouldn’t make me laugh, but it so does.