Raping young girls is the sort of thing that will endear him to his base anyway, not alienate them. That’s what they think women and girls are for.
The Epstein thing is one of the more bizarre things about the maga information bubble.
Trump supporters bring up Epstein all the time. And Musk brings it up, trump jr brings it up, MTG, trump etc.
And yet all the evidence implicates trump. It’s clear he had a friendship with Epstein and Ghislaine, and at the least knew about Epstein’s predilections, if not took an active role, and this is probably why trump has expressed reluctance to release those files.
But of course they just handwave all the actual evidence and assert that evidence implicating democrats (and clearing trump? They rarely even get into that) must exist.
The MAGA types seem to be convinced that prominent Democrats were frequent visitors to Epstein’s island and took part in activity that would make Caligula blush. Never mind that Epstein’s most famed buddy seems to be the Orange God himself.
Are there any tangible evidences vs trump epstein crimes. Normally id say ofcouse, but any evidence?
Isn’t the answer to the OP’s question at this point clearly no? I mean, it’s been two and a half years since Ghislane Maxwell was convicted. There is no way a serious investigation wouldn’t at this point have gathered the evidence, or not, sufficient to arrest others.
And you’d have to winnow out who met/talked to/worked with Epstein from the people who used his “services.” Like he talked to Bill Gates, but somehow I just don’t see Gates as that kind of guy. Maybe I’m wrong, I just chose him as an example.
Gates began his friendship with Epstein three years after Epstein pled guilty to soliciting sex from a minor.
There are some indications that Gates’s friendship with Epstein contributed to his wife’s decision to divorce him.
From what I can gather that’s pretty much a dead end. They were neighbors and certainly ran in the same circles. If not friends they were certainly friendly. The relationship ended with Epstein’s guilty plea. Trump says it’s because he found out he was a bad guy. Others suggest there was a fight over a piece of property near Mar-Iago. At this point it was so long ago and Trump has been the target of a lot of scrutiny, if there was some proof it would have come out by now.
In general, no.
Trump discussed Epstein’s interest in younger girls - so he knew about it somehow.
Trump claims to have kicked Epstein out of their community in Florida because he’d solicited one of the Mar-a-Lago employees. Though, this seems to have coincided with Epstein going under police scrutiny and, despite Trump’s claim that he was doing it to protect young girls, this would be years later than when we know Trump was already aware of Epstein’s hobbies.
Trump has almost been sued, several times, by a Jane Doe that claims he raped her, as a 13 year old, at an Epstein party. It’s unknown whether that is someone trying to make him look bad, someone who is afraid for their own safety, or someone who is complaining when her check for silence doesn’t show up on schedule.
Trump was also friends with John Cassablancas, who also ended up moving to a private island after people found out he was diddling under age models.
Trump was also friends/business partners with Tevfik Arif, who (failed but) tried to bring in some younger teenaged girls for a business associate in Turkey and was arrested for it.
Trump is said by several girls to have peeked in on the girls undressing at the Teen Miss America events that he was holding.
Pretty much every long time friend of Trump’s seems to be a sex addict. E.g. Steve Wynn, Vince McMahon, etc.
Epstein claimed to have started his whole deal out of jealousy for Trump’s modeling business, and his ability to have girls whenever he wanted them.
Trump is a convicted felon for trying to hide campaign expenses to keep a woman silent from discussing how he’d casting couched her. He is, likewise, the loser in a suit over the question of whether he had forcibly sexually attacked another woman. His legal excuse for the campaign expense was that it was just part of his regular activities to pay off girls.
His fixer is noted as having received a message from a friend assuring him, during the campaign, that “the videos” had been destroyed.
In general, I’d say that the evidence is strong that he’s a pervert with pervy friends. His type seems to be adult, big boobed blondes, but he doesn’t seem to mind if someone else prefers them 14 and mousey. I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if he’d had sex with a few underaged girls through the years - at Epstein’s, at Cassablanca’s before he moved away, or on his own, for example while running Miss Teen USA. Some teens fill out more quickly than most others.
But, no, there’s no hard evidence. Even in the best situations, sex crimes are usually a he-said, she-said situation. Add some money and some threats, and there’s very little reason to come forward when the only chance you could ever have had to prove anything was for a few hours after the event, 20 years ago, but you didn’t go into the cops or otherwise create any evidence at the time.
And I’d note that, given his position, the value of having some evidence that Trump did something completely unforgivable is very high and anyone who wanted something of him would pay good money for that evidence. If there was video, photos, etc. then depending on how compliant Trump is, you’d expect to see him do almost any wild, unreasonable thing that went against American interests, and against all the advice of everyone that only seemed to the advantage of others and we’d never know why.
In general, I’d say that because of Trump’s personality and friendships, he should be considered completely ineligible for the job, regardless of how competent and wise he is (or isn’t) at running a well-oiled machine. There’s simply too large a potential, given his hobbies and friends, to have left something compromising in his past.
Isn’t the point of the Epstein files meant to be that he kept secret recordings for blackmail purposes? I’ve googled a bit and I am still not sure how much is real vs meme, and if recordings exist why those people wouldn’t already have been prosecuted?
Anyway a lot of Trump voters seemed convinced Trump would release the Epstein files if made president, and let’s remember that QAnon basically sprang out of the idea that Trump was going undercover to expose pedophiles. So I am sure all the details will be made public very soon. I’ll hold my breath.
To my knowledge, there’s an idea that he might have been creating and collecting blackmail material on others. It feels to me, from looking at his relationship to Les Wexner, like there might have been some form of extortion going on. But my understanding is that the Epstein files are just witness testimony about Epstein, his activities, and who else will participating in those activities. Depositions to the police, not secret recordings created by Epstein.
If there was a tranche of blackmail material discovered, I missed that article. Nor am I finding it now.
When has he ever…?
I’d wager most Trump voters have never heard of Epstein.
I saw they were claiming Joe Biden was a 'friend" . Mind you, we know trump was a friend of Epstein, but not necessarily a “friend”- if you know what I mean.
I didn’t say a majority of Trump voters. But, since you bring it up, I’d take that bet.
Good cite.
Almost all of them have. The notion that thousands of liberal celebrities in the United States were pedophiles on Epstein Island and that Trump would release their names was very commonly accepted amongst Trump voters. It was a big part of their pre-election mythology.
I mean… this is a really big deal to them. You cannot possibly miss it if you spend ten minutes reading what Trumpists believe.
He also has a Jewish name. Like Goldstein in 1984.
Two minute hate, anyone?
If you went to Epstein Island, you should have to go to Komodo Island
How about Monster Island? Technically, it’s a peninsula!