Pretty much. All the successful cults do.
There are exceptions to most social rules. I had women express sexual interest without speaking or knowing me, but that is extremely rare.
On the other hand, I would not be likely to approach based on looks alone, speech or body language is needed.
Count me among those who don’t feel at all correctly described by the generalization.
Meanwhile, another pattern that crops up whenever someone makes the kind of assertion that constitutes the OP here —
Various people will say that they have observed the described behavioral patterns. Some will attribute them to built-in differences, others will be far less inclined to do so.
And meanwhile, I, one of the people who didn’t feel very well described by the statement, will see expectations and scripted roles that call for those behaviors, like dance steps. So that needs to be taken into account here: the possibility that the reason people behave that way is that the tradition-bound courting, flirting, and dating scripts call for people to dance their part of the dance, regardless of whether it reflects their nature and their true wishes and desires or not. And that people conform to that a lot more than most of them realize.
It’s also quite possible to feel sexual attraction without acting on it. You or he might be in a committed relationship. Or age might be a factor. Or he might be a co-worker.
Oh sure! Some of you people can afford cannons! And brick walls! The rest of us have to make do with Reddit. :mad:
I actually don’t go to Reddit often, I just googled the OP’s name and browsed a bit. You chose wisely.
Nope, it’s not. Because “nice guys” insist that they are entitled to supermodels and freak out when someone suggests they might lower their sights a tad and do their hunting amongst those in their own attractiveness level. Good looking “bad boys” aren’t afraid to do their practicing on women who aren’t up to their level in order to get good at it. They also perfect their abuse skills at the same time when there’s no social consequences to be paid. That way when they go out to nail the super good looking women they have one hell of an arsenal ready to hand.
“Nice guys” aren’t willing to do ANYTHING to improve their chances. They won’t lose weight, learn to shower, hit the gym, shave their neckbeards, dump their fedoras, learn to be amusing conversationalists, get a sense of humor or even learn to be useful around the house. All they want to do is get on the internet and bitch to all the other incels how unfair it is that Gisele Bundchen steadfastly refuses to respond to their tweets.
I mean, these guys manage not to ever get laid in spite of the fact that most women are much more forgiving of male schlubbiness than men are of women who aren’t Beauty 2K Compliant. That’s some dedicated uselessness, that is.
Or you might not like the person all that much. Or feel comfortable with her, deliciously cute or not. Hell, it’s not like it a vanishingly rare phenomenon to feel attracted to someone. For some of us, it’s a several-times-per-day sort of thing. So it’s something else that creates the situation where you go on to act on it.
You’re prepared to cite self-designated Nice Guys on this? Or you’re relying on things that other people have said about “nice guys”?
They rather speak for themselves: https://www.reddit.com/r/niceguys/
Hah, ha, ha. Checks join date–yup.
You’re not a woman, now are you? If you were, you would know what claptrap this is.
Women are pretty complex and different; even the same woman at different times. I am far from expert but the assumptions made in the OP are often wrong.
Many women are attracted to popular celebrities they have never met.
Women do place less emphasis on appearance. But even the Chippendales dancers pretend to be a fireman or construction worker — even in the fantasy the guy has a job.
Many women like a guy who is kind, social, talkative and challenging. Liking someone and feeling sexual attraction is more complex for women than men for many reasons — biological cost, importance of social opinion (friends), social consequences, etc.
I am not in a position to tell you what woman want, but women rate far fewer men as “very good looking” than the reverse. And being good looking by itself is just not enough in the long term for most people who want fun, validation, loyalty, humour and friendship as well.
Though there has been a lot of mansplaining about what women want, how to trick a woman into liking you more, etc. I think you are probably better off just doing more interesting things and becoming more accomplished and physically fit and keeping expectations realistic.
I think women like men’s bodies in general but less focus on the PowerPoint. I don’t think the majority of women are bisexual, and a lot of the OP is ridiculous. Again, women are individuals.
I don’t see a single entry on that linked page that appears to be written by a self-proclaimed Nice Guy. Am I just dense and I’m missing it?
Sir I resent the implication that I am somehow failing to give this subject the weight, gravitas and respect that it is due. Harumph.
I’m not a sir.
And *I *am not Assur!
Heck, you ain’t even Spartacus!
I was Spartacus, but then I changed jobs.
I see that the thread is starting to evolve into the humorous ribbing stage, but I gotta say, I don’t know much about a lot of stuff, but I do know that Mrs. Guest DOES most certainly have a positive reaction to good lookin guys (gals too for that matter). I know this because I am the direct beneficiary of that reaction
(growr, baby, growr, yeah!
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I have been told by a reputable source that if I cared to I could “have” any of the straight women at work, at least two of the lesbians, and several of the men. And I am genuinely a nice guy.
It is a cliche but women seem more attracted to personality than appearance.