Women, please, QUIT FUCKING WITH MY MIND!!!!!!

Well, it seems my super powers haven’t faded away just yet. Last year, I dated this girl for a couple of months, we’ll call her “Karren.” Karren moved away close to a year ago, and the last time we hung out, I ended up going down on her. Recently, she came back in town for what I thought was a visit. I drove out to go pick her up, and in the initial “So, what’s been going on?” phase of the conversation, I realize that she’s actually going to be in town for the whole summer. So, here I am thinking that, due to the way things went last time we hung out, tonight could be a very good evening, and seeing as she’s staying in town a while, maybe we can pick things up again while she’s in town.
So, we hang out at her place for a bit, catch up some, she takes a shower, changes, and off we go. From the moment we leave her house, I don’t think a good two minutes went by for the next several hours where she didn’t attack me and pinch my nipples. The evening continued with dinner, along with an hour wait full of good, deep conversation, coupled with more nipple pinching, some ass grabbing, sexual conversation, and general flirting. After dinner came bowling, complete with all of the above, plus a bit of lap sitting, leg straddling, and even a bit of dry humping on her part. When check out time came, she sat there and kept putting her hands in my pockets, grabbing my ass, and snuggling up to the back of my neck. When we got out to the car, she yawned and I asked “So, are you ready for me to take you home, or did you want to come check out my apartment?”

“We can go to your aparmtent.”

I’m thinking things are good, yes? Well, we get there, and my roomate’s there. They’re old friends, and so they catch up a bit as well, until one of his friends comes by and the two of them take off. So, we’re alone, and I show her my room. Immediately, she plunks down on the bed. I lay down next to her, and we talk for a bit. She starts complaining about the sunburn on the back of her neck and how the skin’s peeling, so I roll her onto her stomach, straddle her back, and start to tenderly rub and peel as much of the dead skin off. Sounds gross, I know, but it was a very tender moment, she said it felt good, and I could see it was giving her goose pimples. So, I’m thinking things are going very well, when she starts fiddling with my computer. Then she looks around, and asks “Who’s that in the picture with you?”
“Oh, that’s my ex girlfriend.”
She picks up the picture “It’s a nice picture.”
Taking it away from her, “Yeah, my friend Sasha took it. But hey, I don’t want to think about that, I want to think about you.”
“Where’s the picture of you and me?”
I keep it on top of my sketch books. Last week, I showed them to my roomate, and being lazy, just put them on top of the picture. So, I pull it out, say “Here it is.” We reminice. I go to put it down on the floor, then decide to put it on the desk so it doesn’t just get covered up by laundry and stuff. As I’m doing so, she says “Yeah, just put it where it will get burried again.”
I responded with a sarcastic “Oh, shut up” intending it to be taken as a “don’t be so silly.”
She says “Fine,” and then refuses to say anything. After trying to talk to her for a bit, I say"What’s wrong?" “You told me to shut up, so I’m shutting up.”
“Get out” I say, again in a sarcastic tone. For me, it’s the same as “Get outta here,” again meaning quit being so childish. Her response?
“Okay,” so she grabs her shoes and walks into the living room. She’s being all kiddy like about it, but now all I can think is she’s playing little girly mind fuck games with me, and I’ve had enough of that shit, so I get pissed, put on my shoes, and drive her home. It was an hour long ride, full of stupid talk where she tells me all the flirting that had been going on the entire evening was, to her “Just two friends flirting and having fun. I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to lead you on.”

WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!

egos can be bruised easily, my friend. Something innocuous to you just might be the proverbial foot in the mouth at the wrong time. Negative feedback loop gets going too. Person A makes a joke, person B takes it the wrong way, person A gets pissed because B is pissed. Impartial observer pulls hair out.

Not saying it would have played out differently, but it might have if you had been a bit more patient. Not busting your chops as she could have been a bit patient too.

Not that you were in the wrong, my brother, but you should have been prepared better. At the very least you should have ditched the other picture if there was a chance of some action that night.

Haj

Let’s start with the pictures. Women have been known to overreact to things men don’t see as important at all. This girl obviously felt less important to you than your ex-girlfriend, based on the locations of the pictures. You needed to assuage her feelings, instead of telling her (however playfully) to shut up. (And I agree with hajario - make your room more current-girlfriend-friendly if you don’t want to go through this again). She sounds pretty young, and young girls can have fragile egos. Heck, we all can, if you just push the right buttons. If she does this with every little thing, however, you might want to write her off as too high-maintenance.

As for her flirting all night, I believe she was lying to you at the end of the night when she said it was just friendly flirting. I believe she had every intention of monkey sex, and the picture situation made her insecure with you and she backed off and tried to save face. I would suggest a little damage control with her, and see what happens. Of course, if she truly does see what she was doing as only friendly flirting, then I would have to say she’s going to be big trouble if you do start dating.

The picture thing is crucial - also take inventory of your wallet. If you are out on a date with a “new” girl & you open your wallet to pay for dinner & she sees the predecessor, it could go sour quickly.

Elvis, yes, yes, ditch the pictures. And ditch her while you’re at it. Karren sounds to me like she needs to grow up. Did she honestly think that you never dated anyone before her? Is this the way she handles it when someone inadvertently hurts her feelings? To clam up and misconstrue everything you say to take offense? Geesh.

There are all kinds of women and she sounds like she’d go in the “high maintenance” category. Beware of “high maintenance” people. They tend to be emotionally exhausting.

Also, most people will take offense to being told, “shut up”

Dude, response to her was totally undudelike.

Elvis, my man, you need to ditch the picture of the ex-girlfriend. Pictures of ex’s belong in an album or a drawer, or a shoebox, get the drift? Not, I repeat, not on top of the desk. Every girl who sees it is going to feel like she’s being compared to the ex, or that the ex may come back into your life at any time. Very bad signal to give a woman.

Okay, to help you make sense of this, Elvis, you were in the wrong with leaving the pictures there, and she was in the wrong for getting pissed off about them, and you were in the wrong about telling her to shut up, and she was in the wrong for being a high-maintenance pain in the ass. Got that? :smiley:

You know, when I read that you said “Shut up” to her, I was wondering what you were thinking. When I read that you said “Get out” to her, I realized that you weren’t thinking. No matter what’s gone on, you’re going to kill someone’s desire for you by saying shit like that. Even if she was overreacting (and I gotta agree, keep pictures of the ex in a shoebox and reminisce at odd moments), you probably said the actual worst things you could’ve said at that point. If I was her, I’d be seriously pissed.

On re-reading, that comes out sounding rather harsh. But I think I’ll let it stand for emphasis. Remember, you wanna bed some girl, you gotta keep her happy.

Elvis, you were wrong and should apologize profusely.

Even if you are right, you are wrong and should apologize profusely.

Remember this and your dealings with women will be soooo much easier.

Hey Elvis, listen to spooje.
He’s real smart-like when it comes to dealings with our fair sex!
:smiley:

Lose pictures, change lexicon.

Okay, I’ll admit, the “Oh, shut up” was wrong, and the “get out” was worse, but the mind fuck games were all hers and were there to begin with. And they’re not over. Just now, I got online, she was online, and I wrote her to appologize. I explained that:

She said she probably shouldn’t have flirted like she did, I told her “You’re right, considering what happened between us before, it really made me seem you were interested.” Then, this is what occurred:

Sorry to make this so big, but here is the exact conversation from my AIM file, the only change is in her name. So, should I even bother to try and rectify things again, or should I just give up completely?

Actually, something did get deleted, I appologize, I must have deleted it while changing her name.:

makes the conversation make a bit more (less) sense.

She sounds very, very young.

The remedy is to either be more sensitive (you weren’t) or to find someone a bit more mature.

For what it’s worth, when you apologize to someone, don’t say “I’m sorry” and then follow it up with “but you were being silly.” That negates the whole apology.

Just my opinion, though. Take it for what it’s worth.

Well it depends, if its the summer and you want a fling, then stop being combative, and just tell her shes right, that way you can get to the make up sex already.

I think the answer to this question depends on why you want to rectify things and what you hope to accomplish by doing that. In a similar situation, I would drop things and see what happened further down the line.

I second the “How old is this girl?” bit.