X-Men Origins: Wolverine first look (boxed spoilers)

I’m going to agree with with Ro0sh and ask in what way do you mean.

Other than both being teleporters, Kurt and Wraith are completely dissimilar characters - and Wraith lacks most of Kurt’s powers - invisibility in shadows, enhanced agility, ability to stick to walls, and prehensile tail.

Also, Nightcrawler predates Kestrel by almost 20 years, so calling him a ‘version of Wraith’ is kind of silly.

I don’t know enough about Kestrel to know if he’s all that good a character, but calling Kurt an inferior character would require Kestrel to be pretty much the best character Marvel’s ever created.

Why would this be vexsome? It’s not like relative ages are being kept from the comics. Iceman is at least 10 years younger than Cyclops, Jean and Angel; the casting of Kelsey Grammer suggests Beast is, at least, 10 years older than them; so even the original, core team (from the comics) has a range of 20-30 years in the movie-verse.

Hell, preventing the Gambit/Rogue trainwreck - or else making it positively glorious - by giving them a major age difference is a very good reason to do it, IMO.

Huh. I only knew about the white Ultimate version. Dominic Monaghan was made up though, I think.

Nope. They’ve pulled some fairly obscure characters, but nobody’s invented for the film. (At least none of the major characters, or particularly major cameos.)

The de-aging effects are the same ones introduced for the earlier X-Men film to de-age both Professor X and Magneto. It’s from a effects house called Lola, and before X-Men it had been used on videos for aging pop starlets (Madonna, Kylie, various Spice Girls) for almost 10 years.

I’m mostly familiar with Gambit from the TV cartoons, and expected him to be… well, more “Cajun”. Is that mostly from the cartoon and less so in the comics?

I know it’s still operating. But clearly it was abandoned in the world of the movie.

Apropos of nothing, I was saddened to see Heather Hudson was not a hot redhead in the movie. The world needs more hot redheads.

Hai! I bow to your superior geek-fu.

QFT.

Um, which one was Heather Hudson?

(Seriously, I don’t know who she is.)

(Okay fine, I’ll go look it up.)

Okay, I went and looked it up and … Heather Hudson does not seem to have been in this movie.

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ETA: GAaaaaah! Okay, Heather Hudson is a character name, not an actresses name. Gotcha. Unfortunately, imdb.com doesn’t seem to have a picture of Julia Blake, the actress who portrayed Heather Hudson, so I still don’t know who that was.

I believe she was the older lady Logan stayed with for a couple days after he escaped from the Weapon X program. I think the husband was credited as “Travis” Hudson or something like that, instead of James Hudson.

Justin is very wise.

In the comics, Heather Hudson and her husband James MacDonald Hudson are the ones who found Logan after he escaped from Weapon X. Both eventually became superheroes; first James, under the names Vindicator and Guardian, and then Heather, as Vindicator. As is de rigeur for super-hero chicks, Heather’s a hottie.

That’s why all the exterior lights were still on, then? :wink:

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I didn’t like it as much as I had expected to, but I did like it.

One thing though. Was anyone else bothered by Gambit’s apparent TK ability in the movie? Comic-book Gambit could do all kinds of nifty tricks with playing cards (aside from just making them go boom), but he certainly couldn’t levitate them up out of his hand.

Yeah, the CGI claws kept throwing me out of the movie.

[SPOILER]And was there supposed to be chemistry between Logan and Kayla? I sure didn’t see it. I kept wanting him to kill her ass when she showed up on the island.

I agree with Ranchoth about the anachronisms, especially in the wardrobe department. I couldn’t figure out when the main part of the story took place until they showed Three Mile Island.[/SPOILER]

I loved Gambit, though. All in all, a good Saturday afternoon comic book movie.

My biggest gripe was the montage during the opening credits. WTF were they doing in the U.S. Army? The British Empire had lots of wars they could have fought in. It would have been cool to see Logan as a redcoat somewhere in Africa or India.

I’m also a little annoyed at the way they gave him amnesia. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, one of the coolest aspects of Wolverine’s character was that he would drop offhand references to obscure historical events. “I haven’t seen mud like this since that winter in Monte Cassino. I hated it then. I hate it now.”

But Wolverine has always had amnesia. He might have some memories of his earlier life, but it was fragmentary. And he absolutely had no idea how he ended up living like an animal in the Canadian wilderness with an adamantium skeleton.

I figured Victor and Jimmy just kept running until they crossed into the US and decided to stay for a while.

I watched it drunk enough that it was fine. But lots of things still didn’t make much sense or were just stupid:

Gambit revealing where “The Island” was. I’m thinking Lost: something like Weapon Plus out in the middle of the ocean or something. They’re flying there in a plane. And then all of a sudden he reveals… oh, it’s this place that uh, well, you could have just taken a boat or a taxi there, but hey, why not jump out of the plane while we’re here!"

Deadpool CAN’T TALK? What the hell is the point of even calling him deadpool then? He’s the merc with the mouth. And they made him into “Generic Final Boss Monster X” instead of coming up with some witty dialogue? Sad.

It made no real sense that Wraith and Blob hadn’t talked about the Island. There’s this whole secret project to imprison/kill mutants, and Blob doesn’t feel like mentioning it to his best bud and fellow mutant outlaw? Wraith doesn’t think to ask until Wolverine shows up?

The previously mentioned Gambit rooftop thing. Gambit thinks he’s on the run from someone. He gets knocked out. He presumably wakes up… and then heads several blocks away to go get his magic stick so he can run back TOWARDS the people he thinks are trying to track down and capture him?

Everyone has complained about the claws, but no one has mentioned what they really looked like: something out of “Who Framed Roger Rabbit.” Seriously. I don’t think I EVER noticed anything odd about Wolverine’s claws in the 3 other movies. So how could they get them so wrong the 4th time around???!

“Sharpe’s Wolverine,” maybe? :smiley: