You keep using that word. I do not think "abstinence" means what you think it means

[Voyager]

@Leo_Krupe

Considering that Fox has gotten rid of Mama Hockey Bear, I think her request for privacy will be granted very soon. Unless of course, one of the Palin clan stands on the corner, or on the web, screaming as loudly as possible, “Leave us alone! We want our privacy!” not realizing that most people don’t want to pay attention to them anyway.

In fact they are pitching a new reality series on how difficult it is for them to get the privacy they crave.

[Alley_Dweller]

@Learjeff

That’s the probability of pregnancy in the first year of use, for a typical (not ideal) user. Presumably the probability goes down after that, as we get better at it, or have sex less often?

I think it’s funny that there are two numbers for vasectomy: typical use and “perfect use.” What’s the difference, for a vasectomy? I’ve had a vasectomy, but perhaps I’m not using it properly. (It’s been 100.0% effective over 25 years or so.)

This graphic suggests that you should “use another method for the first three months.” So, I would guess that less than perfect use would be not using another method for the first three months.

And, of course, you should avoid three-ways with non-sterile male partners. And your female partner should avoid intercourse with other men who have not had vasectomies.

[DoctorJ]

She planned this pregnancy with the guy she was supposed to get married to a few months ago until somebody broke it off? Sounds to me like she was trying to get knocked up to keep her man. She wouldn’t be the first to poke a hole in the condom.

[billfish678]

As a man this thread gives me hope of promoting my own “abstinence works” lecture circuit. Anybody close to me complaining that the system doesn’t work would probably be quite do to a vested self interest in remaining quite.

[ftg]

The new post reminds me of 1984. All that’s missing is “We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.” (Which you can see from Alaska.)

[dropzone]

@Sam_Lowry

Bristol Palin will never learn, since she’s a Palin.
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I don’t think that most people are slut shaming her. I would think no different of her if she’s serially monogamous or sleeping with half of the town.

She’s being called a hypocrite because she did do pro-abstinence works and PSA’s, including a PSA with the Situation from the show Jersey Shore. And in an interview with Oprah, Bristol said something about not having sex until marriage, and Oprah asked if abstinence was realistic, and Bristol said it was for her.
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Attack or make fun of her for being a hypocrite, and for her attacking other’s parenting, and her judging others, and for her word salad statements she makes.

See, that’s some of why I’m uncomfortable. She and her entire family are not too bright, making their own bulge on the left-hand side of the bell curve, and I was raised to not make fun of the afflicted.

But don’t attack her for having sex, or having sex outside of marriage, or having a baby outside of marriage, because none of those things are inherently bad, unless you subscribe to certain Christian views. And even if you do, she shouldn’t be attacked for failing.

Amen to that. Perhaps at another time and another place a discussion could arise in which parents and kids could use this as a way to discuss how to not be an idjit moe-ron like Bristol Palin.

Oops! Used up all my nice for the day!

[dropzone]

@t-bonham@scc.net

So the new babies’ daddy – is he hot like the last one?
Where can I find his naked pictures on the Interweb?

I dunno. She was punching above her weight with Levi, though. Maybe they are attracted to power, whatever power Sarah has. But it’s Alaska, so there’s no telling what they’re thinking.

[BigT]

@PastTense

The failure rate of condoms is much higher. Wikipedia gives it at about 15%:
Comparison of birth control methods - Wikipedia

That’s including improper use.

[Katriona]

@running_coach

It was planned, I swear."

Suuuuuuuure it was. The same way my relative’s “planned” pregnancy occurred quite suddenly AFTER she’d had her wedding dress fitted, I guess…

[Anne_Neville]

If you’re going to be a spokesperson for a product, be it abstinence, laundry detergent, or whatever, you should make sure you’re using the product correctly and that the product isn’t failing for you in a public way. If you can’t or won’t do that, you should probably step down as spokesperson for that product.