With the blast shield down, neither did Luke.
And?
If he didn’t have the council telling him ‘these feelings that any idiot could tell are absolutely the right thing are BAD’, there’d have been no hook, there.
If the Jedi didn’t have their code, there would be no conflict between what Anakin knew to be correct and what they were telling him was correct, therefore no conflict in his loyalties, therefore no weakness for Palpatine to play on. He might grumble about Yoda being a hardass if he made him perform his Jedi duties while Padme was in labour, but without the ‘love makes you evil’ nonsense, he’d have had no reason to turn on the Order.
The weakness came from the code, not the emotions.
It’s telling that even Yoda had given up on the idiocy (although he replaced it with the equally idiotic ‘do or do not, there is no try’) by the time the twins were adults and he was training Luke.
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I would say that was due to a Change in circumstances rather than opinion.
It’s not “Love makes you evil”. You’re misunderstanding the code. It’s that Jedi are expected not to have dual loyalties. They’re expected to be loyal to the Order and the good of the galaxy as a while. Romantic and familial attachments complicate that, because it introduces bias. Anakin, for instance, might be forced to choose between what’s good for Padme and what’s good for the galaxy as a whole. Would he be willing to let her and her children die, or would he do anything to prevent it? Clearly, from his actions, he would do anything to prevent it.
The whole idea behind the code is to eliminate these conflicts.
And Luke was sort of an emergency situation. And, remember, Yoda, during Empire, did tell Luke to stay and continue his training after Luke had the vision about his friends being captured by the Empire:
"Decide you must, how to serve them best. If you leave now, help them you could; but you would destroy all for which they have fought, and suffered. "
But this is already true. The Jedi find Force Strong children and bring them to the temple for training. Do we have a single example of one whose parents chose against sending their child?
The Jedi of the movies are already corrupt, amigo. Not irredeemably so, but corrupt nonetheless. My cite is the army of cloned slaves (though that speaks to their stupidity as much as anything else).
I guess it all comes down to Culture then. The Spartans gave up their male children at age 7 (I believe) to be trained. The Jedi require Mundanes to surrender their children to the PsiCorps to be trained. Where is the line? How far is Evil? For the Jedi, it would be a matter of prudence. You cannot perform your duties as a Jedi while towing around small children. Once they are turned over for training and education, just like the Mundane’s kids, that Jedi is once again able to perform their duties as required by the Order.
Interesting quote. Did it turn out to be true?
That’s the thing. Yoda was utterly WRONG WRONG WRONG.
“Hmm… Die I must. Useless I am. Wrong about everything, I was.”
There’s a story on fanfiction.net in which no less an authority than Sherlock Holmes tells off the Jedi about their code of emotional suppression. When he says you’re not being emotional enough, you’re really in trouble.
No, but while his going to Cloud City didn’t actually hurt his friends, it didn’t help them either. All it did was get his hand cut off and force him to cancel his training with Yoda.
I don’t think he needed any more training with the guy who blew that prediction. And, apparently, neither did Yoda; when Luke came back to complete his training, he of course got told “no more training do you require. Already know you that which you need.” (Luke then chats with Ben Kenobi, talking about how there’s still good in his father; Kenobi patiently explains that it’s too late and nothing can be done and there’s no way the man in black could possibly come back from the dark side. Luke, of course, helpfully goes on to prove otherwise.)
What should Yoda have said?
Yoda: A hell of a lot more training do you need. <dies>
For better or worse, Luke was trained as much as he could be trained, given that Yoda was on his last breath. Let’s face it, Luke was impulsive, and while that might make for a good film protagonist, it doesn’t make for a good warrior monk.
I clicked that link, then saw that the entire goddamn story was horizonally centered. Fuck that shit.
Who cares that Yoda just took his last breath? Right after said last breath, Luke starts chatting with the ghost of Obi-Wan, sure as Yoda’s ghost later pops in to hang out with Hayden Christensen or something. The point is, Luke could’ve stuck around in hopes of soaking up some more words of wisdom, but (a) left after hearing a warrior-monk conclude there’s no point in trying to get Anakin back from the dark side, since (b) our protagonist then succeeded instead of failing like his warrior-monk predecessors.
That’s, like, the opposite of “doesn’t make for a good warrior monk”, right?
The lesson I think should be taken from this is that the Jedi business plan at the time of the prequels, i.e. ‘Warrior Monk’, was wrong. Luke’s more impulsive, in touch with both his own feelings and the feelings of those around him, turn out to be more successful, both in the movies and the EU.
It may be forced on him but when Luke establishes the Academy he’s much more inclusive and willing to work with those being trained to find their own way.
Oh, and this:
I quote: YODA: “Once you start down the dark path forever will it dominate your destiny.”
Turns out? Not so much. It’s not really possible to imagine someone more fallen to the Dark Side than Anakin Skywalker yet, 20 years after his fall (in which he believes he’s killed his true love and their children!) he is redeemed by nothing more than a young man who is resolute in his caring for his father.
Huh?
Of course they are always possible. NOT ONLY are they always possible, but I welcomed them (in response to my post). This welcome would of course make one appropriate. (Not the only situation which would make a wisecrack appropriate, no doubt, but an obvious one.)
I suppose that I could have phrased what I did better. 
Or are you just messin’ with my head? :dubious:
While I would permit relationships, I’d have to say that putting a “glass wall” on promotions for those who do is a good idea. Frankly, it’s probably for the best if people have in charge of the Jedi have a somewhat detached view of things, though I might well reserve three Council seats (out of the fairly high number) for wedded/romancing members, but that’s it. They have other issues to deal with on a daily basis.
However, along with this I would partly relax other rules. Those who are sent to the order as children are trained monastically, but permitted to wed/whatever their alien cultures does. Those who join past age 12 or so (or whenever their species gets the big Pube-Erty or whatnot) might not be allowed in relationships and the order.
Th reason is that those who were trained from a very young age are much less likely to cause trouble if permitted some latitude than those who were already mentally developed. Likewise, I figure the kids are less likely to freak out later on and take a giant flaming leap into the dark side.
Those who join later probably include a lot more who want to “be somebody” or want to live out their fantasies. That’s a lot more dangerous, since they might feel more tempted to abuse their power.
Yoda has massive influnce on the COuncil. Supposedly he spent the last millenium remaking it in his image: so the numbers have dramatically declined, with only the most powerful candidates trained. it used to be less restrictive. I’d try to make a big campaign of rebuilding, while privately (so as not to mess up the semi-democratic process) supporting a reformist Republic policy in term of trade freedom, increasing guarrantees of freedom in most of the galaxy, and avoiding conflict with Hutts and other groups (most in the Outer Rim).
Not on my browser, it isn’t. Of course, I’m running Google Chrome, so it’s impossible for it to go wrong. 
Firefox her. I’ll try it in Chrome, but if it doesn’t work, I’m afraid I’ll have to add you to the revenge list.