|
|
|
|
#1
01-19-2005, 11:50 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Lost 1.14: "Special"
We finally get to hear about Michael tonight. And we get to see "one of the bears" again-- or is it just Walt's imagination? Will Locke recruit another apostle? Will anyone start worring about Claire again, for Chrsit's sake?
I hope this is a good one, because next week's episode is a repeat ("Solitary"). The usual thread rules: Quote:
|
| Advertisements | |
|
|
|
|
#2
01-19-2005, 12:13 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
Alternately, Locke's meddling may backfire, and Michael may form the lead against Locke (until Jin, the true anti-Locke takes some leadership. Which side will Jack take? Kate already has a knife. Who else does? Kate, Walt, Sayiid, Boone, am I missing someone? Charlie's with Locke, but does he have a knife? Quote:
 Quote:
|
|
#3
01-19-2005, 12:17 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
"Solitary" was Sayid's episode, with the introduction of Danielle Rousseau.
I'm really looking forward to tonight. Walt's "luck" is, I think, one of the most intriguing things I know absolutely nothing about yet. And I can't wait to see if Walt somehow made the first polar bear appear. Unlikely, but the idea makes me happy.
|
|
#4
01-19-2005, 12:17 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
[quote[Alternately, Locke's meddling may backfire, and Michael may form the lead against Locke (until Jin, the true anti-Locke takes some leadership. Which side will Jack take? Kate already has a knife. Who else does? Kate, Walt, Sayiid, Boone, am I missing someone? Charlie's with Locke, but does he have a knife? [/quote] Jack is being set up to be the head of the non-Locke group, I think. Quote:
|
|
#8
01-19-2005, 04:29 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
I hope that tonights revelations about Michael will let me say to my daughter with renewed fervor, "Where the hell did you get the idea his character is gay?" I can't say much when her presumption is so baseless ("A girl knows," is not proof)and the only proof I have otherwise is that he has reproduced.
|
|
#9
01-19-2005, 04:44 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
dropzone, while I can't say that I agree with your daughter, or even have a clue where she'd get such an idea, it's not unheard of for gay guys to sire children. My brother-in-law is gayer than glitter, but my sister had two kids with him before he came out -- and if Oprah's got her facts right, that sort of situation is supposedly even more common for black Americans.
Anyway, I'm stoked to find out what's up with Michael. I still associate Harold Perrineau with his role on Oz, so it's going to be hard for me not to scream "Cripple fight!" during this episode. Yeah, I'll feel terrible about it.
|
|
#10
01-19-2005, 04:48 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Hi there castaways.
When I first heard of the show, it seemed really dumb, so I dismissed it. Then a friend cued me in on the buzz and I spent the last weekend seeing the first 13 eps. I noticed, to my joy, that Drew Goddard and David Fury is involved as regulars. I've got one fear, which I also had when the cast got separated in the trogs and the bums - that it will emulate Survivor, with two competing teams. Now, it seems as this might happen again with Locke and whoever heads that other side. Anyhow, another thing that's getting to me is the way a character takes front stage, and the writers keep other characters in limbo. Claire is one such person. What about the guy with the rash? This in turn relates to another thing. I realize that we, the audience, is on another timeline here, but what timeline are they on? Maybe this is something for the questions thread, but I think it was one of the last episodes, someone said they had been there for three weeks. And Charlie said that he'd been without drugs for a week, though I doubt that little stash could have sustained his habit for two weeks, but whatever. So how many days have Claire been missing?
|
|
#11
01-19-2005, 04:51 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
But as a catalyst for an early anti-Locke movement? Nope. That's Jin (although Michael will be an important character early on, at least). She's got the same spiritual vibe going for her, but ina subtle way. She's a healer. Locke's a warrior. She's the anti-Locke, and Micheal is her apostle (just as Boone is Locke's). I repeat my earlier question, who has Locke picked for his team? He's touched Charlie and won his trust, but did he give him a knife?
|
|
#13
01-19-2005, 05:00 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
#14
01-19-2005, 05:05 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Going back to the first episode.
The comic Walt was reading, wasn't it a JSA? I could have sworn I saw the golden age Flash and Green Lantern on the cover. Now wouldn't it have been cool if Walt had created them? 
|
|
#15
01-19-2005, 05:06 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
SPOILER:
|
|
#16
01-19-2005, 05:11 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
"I taste metal."
 They've been on the Island somewhere between 2 and 3 weeks. I'm sure most of the others think Locke and Boone are still Claire searching while hunting. We better get some mention of it, tho. No matter how small. You can't just drop a character and storyline like that. I will wager that the bear/wolf (there wolf) attack will either be another illusion (Michael's, not Walt's), or the solution to the bear/wolf attack will be ludicrously* simple... for the right person *Bitch. This MY house!
|
|
#18
01-19-2005, 05:21 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
Yes. Michael is the biological father of Walt, as far as we know. Walt did have a step-father, but for whatever the reason (probably to be touched on tonight), he did not get custody of him.
|
|
#19
01-19-2005, 05:27 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
#20
01-19-2005, 05:36 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
I thought she said "almost." Still, it's a short time compared to our viewing. You know, someone ought to do a show where each hour of what we see is one hour of "show" time. Maybe they could call it Day or something like that.
|
|
#21
01-19-2005, 05:43 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
#23
01-19-2005, 05:46 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
#24
01-19-2005, 05:46 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
It would be good to have a timeline of their time spent there, with the episodes marked in.
I checked the official site and there's some diary that I couldn't be bothered to read, but which is up to day 23, so just over 3 weeks. If Locke and Boone's been going out, not searching, for four days, that means Claire's been missing 5-6 days now. I would've liked it if the show wasn't linear, i.e. we were getting flashbacks to what's going on between the characters, and they speeded up the time spent on the island. Also, three weeks means that more things should have changed, e.g. women starting to spout under arm hair. Since I'm late in the game, this might have been mentioned in one of the threads. My WAG speculation, totally spoiler free: Abandoned cold war base for nuclear testing.
|
|
#25
01-19-2005, 06:02 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Attention everybody:
Jin is the guy. Sun is the girl. Jin is the guy. Sun is the girl. Jin is the guy who wouldn't pee on Hurley's foot. Sun has boobs. This has been a public service announcement from the Monstre. We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread. 
|
|
#26
01-19-2005, 06:09 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
Quote:
And in the last one (episode 13), Kate did say "over three weeks".
|
|
#27
01-19-2005, 06:43 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
#28
01-19-2005, 06:48 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Easy answer on the shave thing. They have razors. Way back on page 4 or six of one of these threads, I remarked that I saw someone in the background shaving. As for the Don Johnson look, I think they just don't like the hassle of shaving or are saving/rationing the razors for the long haul, so, infrequent shaves.
Let's do keep up, people.  The TCM (or TRM, now) either mirrors or feeds on negative emotions. It was there early because of the fear. It was there (or was it?) for Boone and his incestuous divorce, surely he was full of negative emotions. This ep, with Locke and Michael possibly coming to a head over Walt, SPOILER:
I'm telling you, the TCM is a Krell machine manifestation.
|
|
#29
01-19-2005, 07:22 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
It's halfway over!
An episode update with ramblings...
The teaser/prequel shows the abduction of Claire. But, no one's actually said anything yet. Except for Charlie wanting her diary. Weird. The castaways are playing tourneys with deodorant as a prize. Same for razors? Locke’s kung fu is powerful. He magicked Walt into being able to aim. Boone goes to the mat for Locke. ”Walt is different.” Walt’s mom was a mover and shaker in the law business. And she took his boy from him! Sure, he was lazy, maybe. I get those winter construction slowdowns, but I’m never actually OUT of work. Now, Michael has a second chance. And he desperately wants off the island. Even if it means just him and Walt on a raft. Sayid and Danielle’s map. “I don’t think it’s to scale.” What is the significance of the comic book drawing of the city on the globe? Or is that some sort of space ship? Walt’s mom was playing Michael cold, man. That hurts. Perhaps the site’s diary is Claire’s? Michael’s obsessive control issues with Walt no doubt stem from the way his woman jerked him around over the child. Hey! Walt and Michael have something fairly deep in common: ART.
|
|
#33
01-19-2005, 07:46 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Commercial break before the denoument
My brother thinks Kate is hotter than Shannon.
 AS IF!And besides, Sun is quite the honey, too. Bad timing on the hobbit comedy scene. Walt (in flashback) fixates on a bird and a bird dies for him. Curiouser and curiouser. “Mind’s eye.” Walt has the power of making what he dreams come true. Apparantly, tho, he doesn’t know it and so has no control over it. Did Walt “create” the TCM? Brian was seriously afraid of Walt. “He’s different, somehow.” So, the Walt phenomenom transcends the Island. What was in the box at Walt’s school? Trion? CGI polar bear. Why can we see its breath? Is it suddenly cold on the Island? Michael takes the fall for Brian. Truly an admirable thing to do. Walt calls Michael “Dad” during the rescue. TV Guide lied. No TCM. Unless the polar bear is another manifestation of the TCM phenomenon.
|
|
#35
01-19-2005, 07:52 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
It sure was.
And omgrpghdbwtf SPOILER:
|
|
#36
01-19-2005, 07:53 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Oo! Lotsa little Very Important details. Black rock, weird kid, Claire, bears, Sawyer's a ponce. Oo-oo-oo!
|
|
#39
01-19-2005, 07:57 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
Somebody with replay and better eyes than me PLEASE tell me - was she still pregnant???
|
|
#41
01-19-2005, 07:58 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
#42
01-19-2005, 07:59 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
|
#43
01-19-2005, 07:59 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
Walt is a magic key, I'm sure of it now. Did he 'cause' the plane crash? We've now seen he has no conscious control of his ability. Maybe IT controls HIM.
|
|
#45
01-19-2005, 08:02 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
#46
01-19-2005, 08:03 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
#47
01-19-2005, 08:03 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
Locke said "he." Since he was addressing Walt in Michael's presence, I made a conclusion. Could be wrong. Maybe a double entendre metaphor? Refering to dog but meaning Dad? Vince is the dog, right?
|
|
#48
01-19-2005, 08:06 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
A few little things:
I think it's rotten that you have to play golf if you want to compete for the last of the deodorant. Hurley got the impression that Michael hates being a father. At the time, I think he might have been right. Boone is completely under Locke's spell, following him around like a sick puppy. Shannon put on her best hopeless sister act, and Boone couldn't care less. He really did let it go. When Locke and Boone heard something coming through the forest, I knew it wasn't going to be Vincent. Or the TCM. Or the polar bear.
|
|
#49
01-19-2005, 08:10 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Also, when Locke was saying that about the dog, he was eye contacting Michael. Michael "found a way back" to Walt. He also found him this episode, just in time to save him. So, tho specifically referencing the dog, it's pretty obvious to me he spaeking of the bigger picture, namely, Michael being brought back to Walt as his dad.
Maybe Walt "arranged" it. Locke recognises that Walt is special, after all. The man rarely says things for no reason, it seems.
|
|
#50
01-19-2005, 08:11 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
I was kind of glad that next week's episode was going to be a rerun of the Sayid backstory episode, since I hadn't seen that. I was glad... until now. Stupid evil cliffhangers! Why must you make me wait? Why??
I'm still a little ambivalent on Locke, but I really liked the way he handled the Michael situation. I was kind of unnerved by how quickly Boone leapt to Locke's defense, but the Great White Hunter himself did everything right. And, of course, now he has Michael and Walt on his side. The thing is that I like Locke. He's a good person (and a great character), and I think he means well. But he's also one with the island in a lot of ways, and I'm not sure that the island is essentially benign. Even if it's not totally dark, it does have a dark side to it. Because I can't trust the island, I can't really trust Locke, even though I think he's sincere in his intentions. Does that make sense to anyone else? That's the great thing about this show. There's room for interpretation and ambiguity and nuance. You can think about it.
|
 |
| Bookmarks |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
Linear Mode
