Ehh, I’m not going to do it, but not for that reason. He can’t brag. Even if he does, to who? His cronies? He doesn’t know anyone I know, and I don’t know anyone he knows which is why I have no way of letting his wife know what kind of “man” she’s married to.
MLO I’m confused. Maybe I’ve misread.
How do you know this guy? I was under the assumption that you were coworkers or something?
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Give him my name, I’ll sleep with him.
Maybe not sweaty and hairy but I know a lot of rich people that would fall into the dirty category.
Clean hair, brushed teeth and lavender imported soap doesn’t a clean person make.
It doesn’t? I’ve been doing the wrong things, then. From now on, dirty hair, unbrushed teeth, and… well, back to Ivory!
If the guy wants it so much, as for $5 grand.
And do make sure he’s clean. It would be unfortunate if you get more than what you got paid for.
Well, you might size up your landlord and mechanic
Just kidding, after the fact.
I have it attributed to George Bernard Shaw well before either of those jokers was on the scene.
My advice to the OP is, you’re the only one who can solve this one. It depends on who you are and how you feel about yourself. Lotsa people have problems with sex work, but if you are comfortable doing it, it probably would work to your advantage to have that extra means of making money, even if you didn’t use it much.
I had some thoughts on how women get into the sex industry and why it’s wrong of them to judge them badly for it, and I wrote an essay about it for my site. Here’s the gist of it:
Pornbodies excerpt:
… It makes you wonder, do women with [sexy] bodies get sucked into sex industry work more readily than other women do? I’m serious. There are several things that determine what you’ll do for a living (if you aren’t born rich or connected, in which case that is THE determining factor in most cases).
Most people have dreams of doing something for a living that’s exciting, fun and easy and makes lots of money, but the harsh reality is that there are only so many niches out there for rock stars, actresses and supermodels. Considering how many people covet those jobs, you might as well plan on making a career out of winning million dollar lotteries. The odds are about the same.
Instead, most people pay careful attention to what others tell them they are good at, if they tell them they are any good at anything at all, and try doing that. If you get praised for your skills in math, you head in the direction of programming, accounting, finance, physics, etc. If you get praised for your language skills, you get a liberal arts degree and bus tables for a living while threatening to write that novel one day. If you have no talent whatsoever but you can talk people into things, you head into management or sales.
Now, what if you have a pornbody like [Stacy] Valentine, [Alexis] Taylor and [Jenna] Jameson? It’s doubtful your parents, your teachers or your guidance counselor pushes you toward the sex industry. But you can’t help notice that guys REALLY want to have sex with you, and that women hate for you to pay too much, i.e., any, attention to their boyfriends. Your friends tell you that you are beautiful and sexy. Boys tell you that you are beautiful and sexy and anything else they can think of that might gain your favor. And your parents tell you that you are beautiful and sexy, too, only their words are a little different: “Don’t trust boys, ever, they will tell you anything at all to get you to have sex with them. You’re beautiful and cute and that’s the way some boys are with beautiful girls.”
So you watch TV and the movies and read magazines and you learn that women who are beautiful and sexy have some career options. They can model and act and dance naked in strip clubs and have sex with men for money and have sex in dirty movies for money. Of course, these aren’t the FIRST option for such women, which is to be the aforementioned actresses, singers, and models, but they’re always there, in the background as it were.
But of course all this is very remote, until you graduate from high school, when you suddenly find yourself flipping burgers, working retail or waiting table for minimum wage, and you don’t have enough money to move out of your parent’s house, and the work is horribly dull and dead-end, and you wonder how long your beauty will last and you’re not having any fun at all out of all this morality and goodness you’ve been participating in.
What’s more, instead of everybody praising you a lot for being moral and all despite your fabulous potential for immorality, your parents are showing definite signs of getting tired of you living at home, and that dull boy you’ve been stringing along until someone better comes along is starting to act like you’re already wearing his ring, and your less attractive friends who are holding down the same dull jobs you are have taken to pretty much calling you an idiot for not capitalizing on your looks and getting out of Burger Doodle/Mall World. Because they hate their jobs as much as you do, and they want to escape from them vicariously through you.
And so that’s how you get the 'nads to show up at amateur night at a strip club in a nearby town to see if you have what it takes to dance naked before men. Or that’s how you wind up answering that ad for models that everyone knows is for nude models, or that’s how you end up calling the girl who was in your school a few years ago whom everybody thought was beautiful and sexy like you, who wound up doing porn films, and asking her a few questions about the porn film business, such as how do you get into it?
So that’s how you get into it, not because of some fabulous degree of immorality on your part, but simply because, from puberty onwards, this had been presented to you as something you could do well, an opportunity you could take and thrive on. And presented with Burger Doodle/Mall World or porn, you chose porn, as another might choose accounting or engineering or medicine. You were born with a body made for porn, and so that’s what you do.
My point here is that we all bring something different to the table when it comes to how we make a living. Some of us are good at writing, some at sales, some at management, some at organizing, some at keeping records. So why are the women who are born with pornbodies and who use what they’re born with to further themselves in the world any different from the rest of us, really?
To tell you the truth, I don’t think they are.
Incorrect. Not all skills involve the use of hands.
What makes Mr Niven an authority on the subject?
Ah, that pretty much explain to me what your position is.
AFAIK, the main arguments used for legalising prostitution are:
- It’s between two consenting adults
- Nobody else would be affected.
Thus, if somebody else is involved in it, there goes the argument.
You are the person who argued this matter with arguments similar to ones I listed above. I do not have to establish my case, you do.
I notice you rebutted robgruver, but not me.
True, not all skills involve the use of hands. Sex would be one of them.
Now that MOL has made her choice, there’s something else that needs to be mentioned: “Half in advance”? “Pay by check”?
Not in this lifetime! Doesn’t anybody posting in this thread watch TV? Didn’t anybody read the: “Ask the guy who trades with hookers” thread?
Whores always get 100% in advance. Either in cash or if they are set up for it, via credit card. Also, be sure there’s a clear understanding of what is being paid for. A few little extras over and beyond the normal missionary sex always cost a whole bunch of extra money.
I mean, if anybody’s gonna’ sell themselves, at least be sure you get your pay.
Enough of this waffling.
Do it. Take it. Then come back and tell us all about it.
If you’re not using your hands during sex then you’re doing it wrong.
Oral sex is a type of sex, Otto. When I am receiving it, my hands aren’t involved. YMMV.
I still think if she did it, she’d probably be lucky if she were able to come back and tell us about it. This guy is clearly a creep of the highest order. I think it’s sad that so many other posters have so little concern for the safety of a fellow Doper.
It’s not that we’re not concerned, it’s that MeanOldLady said several times she almost certainly wasn’t going to do it. If she had said she was considering it… well, I’m sure the issue of safety would have been more prevalent.
MeanOldLady, I’m glad you decided to say no, and I urge you to stick to your decision. I’m poorer than you think, and I know that $2000 isn’t to be sniffed at, but it’s a pretty low price to sell your integrity and self-respect for. You’re better than that, you truly are.
I just wish that I could send you the money myself and help you out, and I also wish I could spend a few minutes alone with this guy to explain a few things to him. Repeatedly…
I like Evil Captor’s post. I have no huge moral quarrel with prostitution either, but am (fairly) certain that I would not go into that line of work myself. I suppose part of it is the stigma that comes along with it. Everyone seems to have massive ethical problems with prostitution, and thinks that just because a woman is a whore she has no self-respect or dignity. Even if people did get over their moral beef/judgement and started seeing it as just work (which they never will), there is still the assumption that a woman who sells her body is stupid. Smart women are physicists or wannabe novelists, right? If she’s dancing around a pole or getting paid to have sex, it’s because she’s got no brain and no talents other than long legs and nice tits.
In this particular case, it’s not the stigma that’s bothering me. No one would even know, so it’s an issue. I do have a couple of other issues with it, though, the primary of which being his wife. I’d never be able to live with myself knowing I slept with a married man. Never thought I’d say this, but there are some things you can’t slap a price tag on. Integrity is one them.