I believe Max is correct. Jack didn’t initiate the call to the pres.
But this leads me to some further speculation…since I think the CoS is a bad guy. It’s possible Mike actually knew Jack didn’t intend to kill the kid, but was just trying to fuck up Jack’s plan by making the president think he was going to.
Wasn’t Mike the one who was earlier urging Palmer to start making first strike plans on whatever country was supposedly sponsoring this? I think he wants an incident for some reason.
I need to watch the episode again, that wasn’t what I took from it. It seems the CoS said “Jack wants to . . .” not “Jack is about to . . . should we stop him”. I think that Jack was waiting for a green light before doing it. I think he was going to kill the kid if he had to. If the Pres had said go ahead, I’m pretty sure he would have. The worst part is, I wouldn’t hate him for it. If someone was poised to kill my child I would not have to much trouble taking a gun to their kids head and saying “You want to rethink that?”. It is a REALLY greay area, and I think Jack is fucked up enough to have a kid iced to save the city of Los Angeles (provided he had the support of the Pres).
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Hey, a light’s turning on. Was Mason the dude in the San Diego Chargers hat that was always listening to a tape of the playoff game they win in overtime?
I have to wonder if Stanton (I guess that’s his name; the old guy who’s getting electrocuted) is really a good guy too, a mole to ferret out the ex-wife and the chief-of-staff. And either the torture is faked, or else since Stanton “knows the drill,” he’s able to withstand the texture. Seems like a pretty far-fetched plan, though… and too many elaborate video tricks for one 24-hour period.
Another slightly fun fact: Mason was also in the movie Straight to Hell with Joe Strummer, Elvis Costello, Courtney Love, and the Pogues.
Wrong one. Berkeley was in a first-season ep called Ice, co-starred with Felicity Huffman of “Sports Night” fame. The one you’re referring to is (I think) Firewalker with Bradley Whitford of “West Wing” as a crazed scientist living near a volcano.
Hmm. Just my opinion, of course, but I am firmly in the camp of “Jack never had any intention of killing Ali’s family.”
As I said before, he’s a Badass, but he’s not cruel and he’s not mean. He knows killing an innocent child would make him no better than Ali.
I think it was all a set-up from the beginning, and that’s why he didn’t tell Palmer about what he was doing, and that’s why Stanton went to Palmer and told him what was going on. Obviously, not everyone would know it was faked, and would think “Good Lord, Jack’s lost it, he’s gonna kill a little kid!” and would try to stop him. The fewer people who knew it was fake, and who knew what was going on, the better.
Jack also intentionally let Kate see the family getting up so she would know he wasn’t a raving lunatic. If she thought he was a loose cannon, she wouldn’t help him anymore.
I think Jack would kill Ali without a second thought, though, once they find the bomb.
av8rmike: I’ve got the right episode but the wrong guy.
http://www.insidethex.co.uk/pdf/scrp107.pdf
BTW, Mason was on “The A-Team”! Twice! As different people! I think he’s now officially my favorite 24 character.
Quite right. I had same insanity, wrong temperature extreme. That guy, listening to the playoff game, was none other than Steve Hytner, Kenny Bania of “Seinfeld” fame.
We now return you to the next level up in the hijack, the Xander Berkeley Appreciation Thread. 
Does anybody else cringe when Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer announces "There’s a nuke-YOU-ler device somewhere. . . " in the promo for Tuesday’s episode? He said it before, now he’s saying it again. If he’s such a smart guy that he knows exactly where Sayed Ali’s family hangs out and exactly when the Muslim service ends, why doesn’t he know how to say nuke-LEE-er???
YES!!! :rolleyes:
I’d be more annoyed if he were pronouncing it “nuke-LEE-er” instead of “NU-klee-er”
Yes, and that irritated me when I saw it, because he’s said “nuclear” many times before in earlier episodes, and I can’t remember him saying it wrong until now.