Yeah, I didn’t buy the riot thing either. If the bomb went off in L.A. sure. But it goes off in the middle of the desert, I think most people would assume it was a military test or aliens or something.
I also agree that I see no need to attack within 6 hours. My first thought also was 9/11 where we waited several days to be sure who to attack.
Actually, I don’t buy the fake tape being so perfect either. The experts must be lying as part of the conspiracy.
Oh yeah, one more thing. Who’s going to see a presidental speech at 5:30am? Most people are still sleeping or just getting in the shower. Guess they needed to get it in before the show ends at 8am and still have time to stop the war. Ok, maybe the east coast people will see it at 8:30 at least.
Well, that was NYC where everyone is calm, cool, and collected as a rule. Everyone knows people from the west coast (particularly LA) are nothing but scared whiners who riot if their toast gets burned (if it were a bagel, I’d understand). Nah, just kidding,. I love both coasts. Let’s do what Tupac and Biggie never managed. Bi-Coastal hug!
Oh, and by the way, I wonder how Tony will deal with Jack next time they meet. I wouldn’t imagine he’ll get over his ankle being snapped like a twig to quick. Matter of fact, he’ll probably have to step down due to injury, and they will put Jack back in charge of CTU this season!
Tony:
Now, I’M the head of CTU, Jack! I don’t need your help!
Jack:
Look, Tony . . . :smacks Tony down like a bitch and cripples him:
Tony:
Jaaaaaaacccccckkkkkkkk . . . .
Jack:
Listen, Tony, I gotta go. Do me a favor and have one of those cuties clean out your office before you go to the hospital. The Pres will be calling shortly to let the kids know I’m in charge, and when I get back I’ll need your stuff out of my pimp space at the top of CTU. Maybe you can be a pencil pusher next season if you are lucky!!! Dumbass. I bombed this place, broke your ankle, removed a prisoner illegally, and I’m gonna get promoted. Don’t fuck with Jack. It’s a simple rule.
In another bit of geography that only exists on “24”, Kim managed to walk from the Angeles Crest Highway to some convenience store on Soledad Canyon Road.
That would be an enormously long hike through the mountains. But Kim’s a tough one!
I’m still loving the show, but every time Kim is on screen I think of deSade’s “Justine” as she gets rescued from one horrible situation only to walk into another.
I also believe that Terry had an affair with the mailman or something and that Kim is NOT Jack’s daughter. Come the hell on, NO child of Jack’s would ever get TWO weapons taken away from them in one day, much less hesitate to pull a freaking trigger when a wild-eyed loon is advancing on her.
I can just see the wrap up episode, Jack standing there with a nice length of rubber hose talking intently to Kim each time he pummels her:
I. Thought. I. Told. You. Sweet. Heart. Sight. Aquire. Fire. Front. Sight. Press. How. Hard. Is. That.
Am I the only one that thought this episode was one of the worst so far? It was actually kinda boring. Nothing really happened. Ok, Alli got killed, but other than that? And how do we even know there is some kind of mass riot? That one guy was a nutjob, that doesn’t mean everyone is rioting everywhere. Plus, as someone said before, one second Kim is a hostage with a gun in her temple, the next second, she is giving CPR to the storeowner, and the nutjob is sobbing on the floor. What happened?
And dont even get me started on how goddamn annoying the “three Arab countries” crap is. Ok, if they want to be politically correct, personally I would rather have them just make up ficticious countries than never mention the names at all. There are so many XXXXXstans on there, they could make up three and most people wouldn’t know the difference. What is Palmer going to say in his speech? “Three middle eastern governments supported the nuclear strike on American soil. But I’m not going to pronounce any of their names tonight because I don’t believe thats in our national interest.” (in case your wondering, thats Dubya in the first SNL debate) It just sounds so ridiculous.
And yeah, this episode seemed rather lame. The whole bit with Kim is just so unbelievable. Why on earth did the liquor store guy let her in to use the bathroom? I guess he thought she looked “okay.”
But then the other guy showed up and went ballistic like that? Not realistic at all. And he was holding her by the neck and dragging her away in one shot and then all of a sudden she was with the other man, trying to help him. :rolleyes:
Heh heh. If you put the accent in just the right place, “Notrealistan” could sound legit.
I don’t pay attention to the Kim storylines. She can’t – can’t! – share genetics with Kiefer. My guess is that the QwickEMart guy looked at Kim and thought he would get himself a little lovin’. He had that lecherous look to him.
Obviously in 24-land, the world still runs on Eastern Standard Time, as it does in the real world.
Every time Bush gives a “prime time” speech I’m two hours away from getting home. If I want to watch NCAA basketball tomorrow I’ve got to sneak out of work at 4 o’clock! Damn East Coast hegemony!
Maybe I wasn’t paying close enough attention, but just why did Jack decide to break Kate out without letting Tony know about it?
Tony was a total standup guy last year. Saved Jack’s butt and trusted him without proof, even at the risk of his career. Repeatedly.
So now, Jack tells him the tape is fake, but can’t offer any evidence other than his gut feeling. So Tony says, “Sorry Jack”.
Then Ali gets killed, and Jack gets a phone call from the shooter, saying that he did it and he wants Kate Warner.
Does it make any sense that Jack would decide to bust her out of CTU? Why wouldn’t he just go to Tony and say, “Okay, I’ve got your evidence. The shooter just called me. I need Kate.”
There was a supposed spoiler posted in another 24 thread that it will turn out that Tony is in fact a mole, behind everything from last season, this season, and next. I doubted it. Doesn’t seem realistic. As you said, Tony definitely went above and beyond to support Jack last year. But maybe the current episodes are setting him up to be a bad guy. I still don’t like it—they’re going to have to come up with a pretty damn good scenario to make me believe Tony could be rotten—but it might be happening.
Are you NUTS? Then Jack would get killed on the way back to CTU, or we’d all be decrying the show’s lack of reality when the Osprey didn’t crash! hehe…
Well, the caller gave him a certain amount of time (20 minutes?). He also said that if he doesn’t come alone with Kate it’s a no go. If Jack had told Tony . . . hmmmm. You see Tony had gotten REALLY snippy and almost powertrip-ish moments earlier. Even to the point of insulting Jack’s methods. This caused Jack to ask “Why are you talking to me like this?” in an almost “tough guy” “Whaddafuck, bitch?” type of way). From Jack’s perspective the pressure and new found power Tony is dealing with is bringing out the worst in him.
So, he’s got 20 or 30 minutes to get Kate to the location alone. 6 hours before all hell breaks loose globally, and only one possible lead to head it off. As far as he is concerned the fate of “everyone on the planet” is in danger. With those kind of constraints and pressures considered, the idea of calling Bitchy-Tony and getting “permission” could waste time, allow Tony the possibility of stopping it, or force him to allow officers to tail him (a no-no according to the guy on the phone). As Jack sees it, he has no choice here. I don’t really have a problem with his logic. Even if he gets fired, goes to jail, whatever . . . the idea that millions of lives may be lost needlessly is enough for him not to care. If he has to break an ankle, do time, or even die to save the lives of good people everywhere it is worth it to him. That’s why he rocks.
I particularly like it because it reminds me of the best of last season. There is an unknown voice on a phone telling him he has to do stuff or else. So he has to break laws, disobey orders, and take huge risks to get a shot at saving his family (last year) as well as LA and the world (this year). You know the show is about to get badass when you here an cell phone exchange that goes something like this:
“Jack, you’ve got to do ______ right now. You have __ minutes.”
“But, there is _____ which will make it impossible for me to ___.”
"You’re creative. You’ll find a way . . . " :click:
Interesting, eh- last season there was a constant voice on the phone telling him what to do. Now, again, there is a voice on the phone telling him what to do. Tomorrow, he will be the voice on the phone (and behind the trigger) telling Collin Farrel what to do…
The thing is, Tony has been a total stand-up guy for Jack, over and over again. He keeps going to the mat for him. And then when the chips are down, Jack punches him out rather than trust him?
That’s out of character. Jack is supposed to be this great judge of character. Tony deserves his confidence.
True, Sam, but I think Jack was more than a little insulted by Tony’s power trip earlier in the hour. And then, when Tony showed up to stop him with a gun, Jack realized that the young pup needed to be taught a lesson in respect.
The reason he didn’t just ask Tony to help him out is, I think, because he knows how poorly Tony is dealing with being head of CTU at the moment. If it were regular-Tony, he would trust him, but boss-Tony is a somewhat different person.
I like Tony, and I hope he learns to deal with pressure and leadership better, but, as they say in Texas, “He needed a beatin’”.
