24: Season 4: Episode 13 (7:00pm - 8:00pm)

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Yeah, and how’s Audrey going to feel about Jack NOW. QUOTE]

I think the writers have made it pretty clear that Jack and Audrey are on their way to Splitsville, USA.

Boy, how would you like to have Jack’s luck with relationships.

I thought for sure he was going to have something going with old what’s her name…the blonde whose sister was a terrorist.

Whatever happened to her?

Oh yeah. Wasn’t her name Kate? And in my opinion, the actress who played her was far, far worse than the actress who plays Driscoll. To use a quote from the great Dorothy Parker, “she ran the whole gamut of emotions from A to B.”

Elaine Driscoll might just have been paying Sarah lip service to shut her up, too. Michelle’s been in the place less than an hour. She sped-read through the file, doesn’t have nearly all the details, and Sarah was the bitch-on-wheels in that situation. Sarah mistimed and misplayed her move. And for threatening Michelle on the way out the door, she should be in containment.

I did get a laugh out of her saying she’d go to Sec. Heller.

Sarah: Mr. Secretary, I was wrongly tortured because Maryann set me up. It was 30* minutes of pure hell.
Heller: I ordered my son tortured for hours because he simply wouldn’t talk. Kwitcherbitchin’. Get out of my sight.
Sarah: :eek:

  • Might have been 90. Not sure if it was wrapped in the next episode or one episode later

If we weren’t, would this really be the SDMB?

An aside: I was watching Law & Order on TNT last night (9 PST, I think) and CLOWdia was the defendant. She actually looked kinda cute, too.

Another aside: The “guest cast” page (http://imdb.com/title/tt0285331/guests) at IMDb is chock full of spoilers, as it has cast lists for episodes not yet aired. (grumble grumble…)

That is a bold statement mister. I don’t know if she was as bad as Driscoll, but she was bad.

Maybe we’ll get lucky and they will both come back.

It was the chief of security dude from McClennan Forster. The one who came in to confront Paul about the printout in the previous ep.

Mmmm. Cloudia.

Hey, on a separate-but-related note, has anyone else noticed that this season in general is a torture-fest? I mean, 24 has never been lacking in that department, but this season they seem to be putting a torture scene in almost every hour. Looking over Fox’s synopses, I find:

7-8am - Bad guy, by Jack
9-10am - Richard Heller, by CTU; and Andrew, by bad guys
12-1pm - Richard Heller, by CTU again
2-3pm - Sarah, by CTU
3-4pm - Mama terrorist, by CTU agent (ok, this one’s minor)
5-6pm - Paul, by Jack; and Mama terrorist by Tony (again, minor)
7-8pm - Paul, by the MF goons

That’s at least one torture scene in over half the episodes.

Curtis was supposed to have been tortured as well, before ‘passing out’. I don’t remember if we were shown any of it happening though

Maybe we should start up a Torture Pool – try to guess who will get tortured next, and in which hour…

I’m taking Marwan in hour 19.

Hmmm. 1:00 for lunch, 4:00 for Happy Hour, and 6:00 for dinner? Now we know the torture guys’ social calendars…

How about the discrepancy in degree of torture?
The more innocent you are the worse the torture; Sarah, SecDefSon, Paul.
The people you want to see tortured get “Talk or we’ll take back the immunity deal”.
Whats up with that?

Funny article about 24 on bbspot. Check it out
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/03/24_hamburger.html

I already said, she wasn’t using it as a bargaining chip, she was merely insisting that the promise already made to her be honored. She was not asking for more money; she was asking for precisely the amount of money that her employer had agreed to pay her. That is not “bargaining”. It’s unreasonable to fault her for not being a team player, while not faulting her employer for failing even worse in that regard. If it was the wrong time to bring it up, then Queen-Bitch should have made a sincere promise to address the issue at a later time, rather than the contempuous, dismissive response she gave.

'Cuz I watched the show. She wasn’t as smart as nerd-boy, but she was doing her job.

I’ve got to disagree with you there. What Sarah had with Driscoll was an under the table special deal made just for her, and she knew it. And she did use the crisis- she threatened to walk off the job when she knew they needed her.

They never said she speed-read the file. If she didn’t have the details, she should have said so.

Nah. After the way she was treated, she didn’t owe them shit.

That much is obvious. Doesn’t exonerate Michelle, though.

She didn’t threaten her. IIRC she said, “You’ll regret this” or something. Probably meant she intends to bring the matter to Secretary Heller. I wasn’t aware that bringing an employment issue to your boss’ superiors was a jailable offense.

I think seeing all the torture has made you guys unsympathetic.

IIRC, Driscoll said “Agreed.” At that MOMENT, it was a legally-binding agreement between employer and employee. At that moment, Sarah WAS at the higher pay-grade. To put her back at the previous pay-grade, Michelle would have had to demote her. And Sarah was rightfully afraid that that legally-binding agreement would not get acknowledged in the confusion of changing directors.

Read my post again. I never said she didn’t try to use the crisis. I said she wasn’t bargaining. You understand the difference, don’t you?

Non-verbal contracts aren’t worth the paper blah blah blah. Thing is, Sarah asked for special treatment; standard treatment apparently being a letter explaining her arrest, and resuming the job at regular pay. Driscoll went along with it, either to avoid trouble for torturing the wrong person or to keep Sarah happy at a time she needed everybody working.

None of which explains why Michelle’s answer that she’d look into it wasn’t good enough for Sarah. It wasn’t a question of confusion. It’s that she wanted privileges and money she would not have normally been entitled to and was afraid Michelle was not going to honor an under-the-table deal Sarah made with Driscoll. A deal Michelle didn’t know anything about, whose existence she had only heard about just then, from Sarah, who was the one who stood to get paid. For that reason alone, “I’ll look into it” should’ve been enough. If she was really just concerned there might be confusion about a totally above-board arrangement, she could have waited because this was not exactly the best time.

What we saw of her work wasn’t enough to establish that she was a LOYAL employee. It could arguably indicate that she was hard-working, but even that’s a stretch. She basically did her job, but she didn’t go the extra mile the way Edgar or Chloe did.

So I still maintain that we didn’t see enough to establish her as a “loyal, hard-working employee.” Any attempt to paint her as such is wishful thinking at best.