I remember that Season 2 was Michelle’s rookie year; and I’ll defer to Wikipedia for the rest:
My friend and I also finished Tony’s sentence- “…you killed my wife. Prepare to die.”
Nina is very dead, unless this show becomes the X-Files. And that was most certainly not Mia Kirshner. I’m sure because as soon as I saw a dark-haired woman Up To No Good, I immediately expected her, and was very disappointed.
I actually freaked out near the end, because I though Jack would have to kill Tony in order to save Henderson. I’m still not completely sold that Tony’s dead, though it may very well be denial. If he is, that’s… well, that’s something. Seems a bit much to kill off two fan favorites in two hours, though, without giving us some new characters to latch on to. When Nina went bad, we got Michelle. When Michelle and Tony were gone, we got Chloe & Edgar. We lose Edgar & Tony and get… Barry?
What might have been nice would have been to make all of CTU into “secure zones” so a gas attack would have been isolated to one section, not the other way around.
And I love how menacing Homeland Security is. If they are anything like real life, they should arrive in CTU sometime around Day 8.
Michelle first appeared in season 2. Mike Novick was not in season 3.
The only “main” characters from season 1 that are still alive now are Jack and Kim, I believe, unless Tony is going to pull through, which doesn’t seem to be the case. (Aaron’s still alive, but I’m not counting him as one of the “main” characters in season 1…)
Maybe Mith Drithcoll will come back to help run things in the last 11 hours, and we’ll get to see her snuff it, too.
I wonder if the new Woman-In-Charge from Homeland Security will arrive with her own family baggage that’s going to affect the events of the day? Perhaps she has a manically depressed son? a drug-addict husband? a mentally-challenged lesbian lover? a sexually aggressive dog?
I noticed that Tony gave us one last unhinging of his jaw as he hung up with Jack, before he hovered with the syringe over Henderson. Something for us to remember him by.
So how much nerve-gas:regular-air ratio does it take to be deadly to a person, anyways? Because apparently that quick opening and closing of the holding room door (okay, twice) by Lynn was enough to fill the entire room with whatever the deadly mixture would be.
But Chloe can just turn on the AC and have the place free of gas in 15 minutes? Wouldn’t there be a few particles still floating around? And she cleaned out Jack’s “safe room” in about 20 seconds. So how do we know all the killer gas particles are out, when one quick door open by Lynn floods the whole room?
Given that I’m not a chemical researcher/scientist/terrorist, I really don’t know how realistic this is (regarding how much nerve gas it would take to contaminate the room enough to be deadly), so I don’t know how much belief I need to suspend, here.
well, since in the real world, nerve gas works wonderfully well via absorption through skin contact, there’s a whole mess-o-suspension being demanded here. Hobbit-boy was a definite deader, since he touched the computer console in the same room with the gas canister. Red Shirt Guard was mostly a sop to the Red Shirt conventions.
if it were the real world, Jack would be dead, too, after trying to cut his way through the wall to the computer room. good thing he was wearing his Enchanted Hoodie, that magically protects him from all poisonous contacts. :rolleyes:
That’s what I thought. Of all the times for the tag team to be more than 15 minutes away… This episode was the worst so far. Even the Chloe “fereze-up” was just too much for me.
So, I don’t get Tony. What’s he thinking… Henderson, I’m gonna kill you beacause, like, torturing is too good for you. Instead of watching you get tortured to within an inch of your life, then being tried and executed, I’ll put you out of your misery myself! Huh??? And why the hell were Henderson’s restraints removed?
Watching Hobbit-boy die like a quivering rat was actually… funny. I couldn’t stop laughing.
Well, there was a throwaway line to this effect – Jack saying that he wouldn’t be exposed to it long enough for it to be lethal via skin absorption (even though the line acknowledges that this is one way that nerve gas works). But again, I don’t know how long or how much exposure it takes (via skin or inhalation) for it to be deadly.
Redshirt: “I’m glad you’re here with me, Lynn… Here at the end of all things…”
I figured we would have something at the end. But Tony Dying?! I mean… what the #@$@# ! Totally wrong way for him to go. I mean… no drama… no drawn out actions… no certainty of a gun shot. Tony deserved better than a simple injection to off him. Im shocked that he went, but I cant express that as I feel jypped. Either he should have died better or not have died at all… or as rushed as he was killed off. Also, no Silent timer? I mean Edgar got that much!
I was waiting for the red-shirt in Holding to start singing a line when SamWise went to fix the computer: ‘pretty little fly. Why does he cry? Caught in a web. Soon he’ll be… eaten.’
The writers kinda overdid it on making the Homeland Security people seem like asses, didn’t they? I was waiting for them to start talking trash about CTU’s moms.
Yes, that little bit with the guard calling his daughter was not only pointless, it was poorly done.
In fact, this entire season seems like a rough draft, not a finished product. Granted, that can be said for pretty much every season of this show, but even in episode 1 with the deaths of the Prez and Michelle, I was thinking that the writers were resorting to killing off characters because they couldn’t come up with a real plot.
[spoiler]IN a TV world where even Tony Soprano can get shot in the gut in the season opener, nobody is safe. And if Fox’s “24” is any indication, not only can any character go at any time, there likely won’t be a lack of company. . .
Other important players have also passed away on the show — Jack’s wife, Terri, at the end of the first season, for instance. But when Almeida became the fifth main casualty in the span of Day 5’s first 13 hours, “24” kicked up the ante as leader of a storytelling shift in Hollywood. At the end of Sunday’s season premiere of “The Sopranos,” Tony (James Gandolfini) was shot in the stomach by his Uncle Junior, leaving unclear the future of the lead character on the HBO drama that helped set the small screen bloodbath in motion. Two of the original survivors on ABC’s “Lost,” Boone (Ian Somerhalder) and Shannon (Maggie Grace), have died. Even actors on monster hits with lighter tones aren’t exempt: The first season of “Desperate Housewives” concluded with the death of one of the husbands. . .
Sure, “24” has one of the highest body counts in TV history and plenty of extras died when the nerve gas was released in CTU, but viewers needed to experience the loss of someone they loved to be reminded of the peril that is at the center of the show, [executive producer Howard] Gordon said. . .
Still, actors and fans alike can be left to wonder if producers are killing fan favorites in the name of good writing or in place of it. . .
Gordon agreed. “It’s one of those awful things, but it renews the contract with the audience that anything can happen and that the threat is real and it has tragic consequences with people we love and have come to love and no one is safe,” he said. “That kind of risk-taking is what makes the show feel real. It gives it blood. Edgar’s death was a way to represent to the audience how lethal this attack was.”[/spoiler]
At this point, I think that “24” has swung way too far towards silly, random carnage. I can handle that–this ultraviolent season has been less violent than a typical video game–but the scene with the security guard talking to his daughter laid bare the entire problem I’ve had with season 5: it came off like a naked attempt at emotional manipulation, an admission from the writers that they desperately need you to invest in the show’s characters because they haven’t really done too much about the plot.
And the plot . . . usually in “24” we get the feeling around episode 16 or so that the plot is starting to collapse under its own weight. This year, I was feeling that around episode 5 or 6. What the hell happened to the Chinese? How did David Palmer know what he knew? How soon is the next presidential election, because I can’t stand either of these half-wits? (And what happened to the real president after Air Force 1 was shot down last season?) Ordinarily I’d be eagerly awaiting the answers to these questions, but we all know this show has a tendency to completely drop characters and plot lines for no reason. Anybody heard from Behrooz lately?
Ahh, “24”, I love you but I know you’re gonna leave me wanting more. Give me some characters to give a shit about, and put them into CTU, and leave them there (here’s one idea: Aaron Pierce has to realize that the putz who calls himself the president is not worth sacrificing his own life for, and could easily transfer out of the Secret Service). And show me that you actually spend some time thinking about the plotlines for the entire season, AND HOW THEY CONNECT WITH PREVIOUS SEASONS. Oh, and don’t shoot your wad too early, save some of the good stuff for later in the season.
Anyone recognize the darkened face guy that was “reformatting all their systems to our specs”? I feel like I should know who he was… it was tickling my memory. Plus it would be the reason for the darkened face if it was someone we’d recognize.
