24: Season 6: Episodes 23-24 (4:00am - 6:00am) Season Finale

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I just now got around to seeing it, and Heroes. ((The latter’s finale beat the SNOT out of 24’s.))

  1. No one caught that the Vice Prez said “These past few weeks” ? I mean I am sure he said that, and given the Walleed sub plot (((What happened to that plot any way?))) and all of that… that VP did not mean “weeks”

2.I am with a lot of the others, I think someone said “Miles” when they meant to say “Milo”.

  1. A problem for another day… As Palmer (the first) said at one point, “I have a feeling its going to be another one of those days…” Also, I heard that Kiefer or someone said that the Finale would set up Season 7 perfectly. – And I think Cheng will be back.

  2. I was under the assumption that the Air Strike hit the commitment point, point of no return… that the strike was going to happen period. As in nothing could have stopped it.
    Previous seasons:

I thought that Nina was D E A D. period. I am pretty sure Jack did the deed, and put at least two in her?

I think the show has bottomed out. I missed a lot of season 5. I doubt 24 will ever go back to the show it used to be.

“Events occur in real time”. RIP.

I have been with 24 for 6 seasons (a VAST majority of 6 seasons at least) I don’t know about 7. Probably.

The movie, if and when, of course. But I think 24 and I are driffting apart.

I will probably have more later… but thats later.

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You may recall that Fayed’s org had been launching suicide bombings across America for 11 weeks prior to the beginning of the season.

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[QUOTE=Meeko]
I thought that Nina was D E A D. period. I am pretty sure Jack did the deed, and put at least two in her?

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Oh yeah, Nina is 100% dead. Jack shot her when she was doing something she shouldn’t be, and when she tried to claim she had more information to bargain for her life, Jack said, “No. You don’t.” bang

That’s back when “24” was much better. I think the real slide for “24” started from the moment they blew up Tony and Michelle for the sake of an incomprehensible plot involving framing a man that everyone believed was dead for an assassination.

-Joe

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[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]
Low points of the season include:
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-Not nearly enough Chloe
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Personally, I think there was too much Chloe, but that’s because her storyline sucked donkey ball sweat. Everything with Morris sucked, and the closing made the rest of the storyline look and sound good.

Bring back season 4 Chloe, give her an AK, and resurrect Edgar.

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[QUOTE=D_Odds]
Bring back season 4 Chloe, give her an AK, and resurrect Edgar.
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Ain’t gonna happen. But don’t worry, the love child of Edgar and Chloe will live on! :slight_smile:

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]
Ain’t gonna happen. But don’t worry, the love child of Edgar and Chloe will live on!
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Wasn’t Jack away for 20 months? That’s one hella long pregnancy. At this rate, Chloe will give birth in season 10.

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[QUOTE=D_Odds]
Bring back season 4 Chloe, give her an AK, and resurrect Edgar.
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I could do without Edgar, but I’m all for giving Chloe some firearms. Heck, they should make her a field agent.

A field agent with some snark. Yeah.

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[QUOTE=JThunder]
A field agent with some snark. Yeah.
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“I guess it really hurts lying there in the street, gut shot with an AK-47…Well, you shouldn’t go around trying to blow our stuff up!” :slight_smile:

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Here are some of my thoughts.

The finale was GAY GAY GAY GAY. Everything was magically and inexplicably resolved. Heartwarming. Hurl.

I think grandpa Bauer put the repaired circuit board in Josh (is this where I act scared or confused?) Bauer’s ugly oversized sweater before they all escaped from the oil platform. So on Day 7, some new, better, hotter actor playing Josh will be looking at the circuit board, wondering what to do with it when the Chinese barge in and kill him, retrieving the circuit board. Or, they’ll hold him ransom in return for Jack Bauer, which will start a whole new season…

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[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]
Keifer Sutherland really can act when the situation calls for it.
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I agree – I thought the final scene was some good acting by Kiefer. And if we’re going to have personal drama, much better from Kiefer than the CTU soap opera Morris/Chloe, Morris/Milo, Milo/Nadia stuff.

Yeah, I’ll agree on most of those, except that I thought that most of the CTU soap opera scenes were bigger filler than the White House storylines. There were a few of the Washington scenes that were a bit interesting, and I found myself liking Tom Lennox more as the day went on. His biggest mistake was going along with Reid earlier (bullying Karen into resigning), but since then, I’ve found him to be a stronger character – politically savvy, but with more honor than most of the sleazeball types around him. Even if he disagrees with somebody (like he did with Palmer’s decisions), he wasn’t going to resort to totally wrong measures.

And I found the Veep’s realizations and admissions in this finale somewhat interesting, too – when’s the last time that a politician on 24 (or hell, in real life) said, “I was wrong.” instead of just trying to cover it up?

So stuff involving Tom Lennox and things going on around him – I found that much more interesting than the “OOooh, Morris, why won’t you talk to me any more?” and “Darling, I’m not worthy of you.” and “Why does Nadia seem to dig the pockmarked rugged asshole instead of metrosexual me?” CTU relationship dreck – which was the biggest “filler” for season 6, in my opinion.

They needed more Chloe, but they needed to use her in a more interesting way – not just the Morris/Chloe stuff.

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[QUOTE=Finagle]
So…Jack just left his Dad there with the chip and a boat. Even if the guy has a bullet in his shoulder and a lump on his head, that seems like an incredibly stupid thing to do. At least pump a few bullets into the inflatable before you run off.
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Or, why not toss Dad into the boat and speed off? Am I the only one who felt that, whatever Jack may or may not have felt about Papa Bauer, he really would have preferred to save him, if only so that he could be held accountable for his crimes? When Papa said to Jack that he’d never be able to carry him back to the helicopter in time, I actually screamed at my TV, “There’s a BOAT right there!” Jack could have flung Dad into the boat in two seconds and cruised off into the darkness.

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[QUOTE=Meeko]
4. I was under the assumption that the Air Strike hit the commitment point, point of no return… that the strike was going to happen period. As in nothing could have stopped it.
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If they can call off an airstrike on another country (Season 2) at the last moment, they can certainly call off an airstrike 6 miles off the coast of L.A. before the missiles are actually launched from the fighters. Regardless of what B.S. reason they try to make up on the show. Executive Order, anyone? If the acting Commander in Chief calls up and says, “Hey guys – don’t launch those missiles.” you don’t frickin’ launch those missiles. Or it’s your ass.

So here’s what I’d do with season 7. Turn it around. Jack goes on a covert mission to China (or wherever), but he’s on the offensive. The “CTU” in season 7 is not our CTU from L.A. – instead, it’s the “Chinese Terrorism Unit” or whatever, trying to stop Jack Bauer and his American operatives. Jack becomes the Fayed/Marwan/SayedAli/Gredenko, although his objective isn’t terrorism – he’s not trying to kill civilians, he’s still the “good guy”, from our perspective.

But he does have an important covert national security related operation to complete, within their borders. Maybe Cheng has escaped and stolen some dread secret, and China is building a Death Ray. Who cares, whatever… something drastic, and there’s no way we can stop them through diplomatic channels, and we don’t want to risk all-out war with China.

Jack has help – from other U.S. operatives, maybe team members sent with him (Blind Doyle?), and perhaps other covert cells in China. But he’s the stranger in the strange land, this time. It’s not his home ground. And there are Chinese operatives (with their own “CTU” resources) trying to get him, and willing to resort to much more drastic means than our own CTU would (like endangering civilians, etc).

What do you think, sirs?

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[QUOTE=Monstre]

So stuff involving Tom Lennox and things going on around him – I found that much more interesting than the “OOooh, Morris, why won’t you talk to me any more?” and “Darling, I’m not worthy of you.” and “Why does Nadia seem to dig the pockmarked rugged asshole instead of metrosexual me?” CTU relationship dreck – which was the biggest “filler” for season 6, in my opinion.

They needed more Chloe, but they needed to use her in a more interesting way – not just the Morris/Chloe stuff.
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I agree with everything you said here.

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[QUOTE=Roadfood]
When Papa said to Jack that he’d never be able to carry him back to the helicopter in time, I actually screamed at my TV, “There’s a BOAT right there!” Jack could have flung Dad into the boat in two seconds and cruised off into the darkness.
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Jack doesn’t like doing things the easy way. Why escape 5 minutes before the missiles hit when you can escape 5 nanoseconds before the missiles hit?

(Although, how long would it have taken to unmoor the boat and get it going…?)

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[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]
For a decommisioned oil rig, it certainly was well lit.
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I noticed the bottom of that Sanitation Truck in which Cheng was escaping was remarkably well lit. (As soon as Jack crawled under and held on) It was almost like there was a special light under there to light Jack’s face.

p.s. I love the idea about turning the tables and setting the next season in China. But I suspect budget restrictions would make the end result less like the “Mission Impossible” thriller we are imagining in our heads. I’d love to see a Chinese Terrorism Unit set, though.

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[QUOTE=The Controvert]
p.s. I love the idea about turning the tables and setting the next season in China. But I suspect budget restrictions would make the end result less like the “Mission Impossible” thriller we are imagining in our heads. I’d love to see a Chinese Terrorism Unit set, though.
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They could even have their own sarcastic computer genius character – perhaps named… Chi Loi.

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[QUOTE=Monstre]
So here’s what I’d do with season 7. Turn it around. Jack goes on a covert mission to China (or wherever), but he’s on the offensive. The “CTU” in season 7 is not our CTU from L.A. – instead, it’s the “Chinese Terrorism Unit” or whatever, trying to stop Jack Bauer and his American operatives. Jack becomes the Fayed/Marwan/SayedAli/Gredenko, although his objective isn’t terrorism – he’s not trying to kill civilians, he’s still the “good guy”, from our perspective.

But he does have an important covert national security related operation to complete, within their borders. Maybe Cheng has escaped and stolen some dread secret, and China is building a Death Ray. Who cares, whatever… something drastic, and there’s no way we can stop them through diplomatic channels, and we don’t want to risk all-out war with China.

Jack has help – from other U.S. operatives, maybe team members sent with him (Blind Doyle?), and perhaps other covert cells in China. But he’s the stranger in the strange land, this time. It’s not his home ground. And there are Chinese operatives (with their own “CTU” resources) trying to get him, and willing to resort to much more drastic means than our own CTU would (like endangering civilians, etc).

What do you think, sirs?
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Wicked awesome! I’d pay money to see it. It’s getting ridiculous that every single terror plot hatched by the world’s most dangerous terrorists always centers on LA. I don’t know if The Keef’s patented Velvet would work on Chinese civilians though:

The Keef: Please, I need you to help me. I’m begging you.
Random Chinese Civvie: 什么性交 (this is what I get when I type WTF in Babelfish)
The Keef: Dammit!

Any helicopter pilots in the house? How long does it take a helicopter to go six miles? I bet it doesn’t take ten minutes. By my math, six miles in ten minutes is an astonishing airspeed of 36mph! To be fair, Jack and Badass Bill Buchanan didn’t actually know where they were going when they stole the chopper in the first place.

The VP’s girlfriend said she was going home for a change of clothes but comes back wearing the same suit she left in. And I guess love really is blind… how could the VP not notice he had been getting sloppy seconds for an entire year?!

Why is the key to the Russian defense network found on a chip inside a decomissioned nuke? And why were the schematics for the chip right on the chip?

Miles O’Brien, Deep Space Nine’s own Chloe.