24: Season 6: Episodes 23-24 (4:00am - 6:00am) Season Finale

[QUOTE=Finagle]

At least pump a few bullets into the inflatable before you run off.
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Yep.

[QUOTE=Finagle]
I’m personally a bit interested in knowing how a guy dressed all in black with nothing but a pistol and a very wet cell phone, many distinguishing scars, and no time to set up a safe house or squirrel away funds is going to stay out of the public eye for long.
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I would expect someone in his profession to have resources stashed about the area. Enough cash in various bus station lockers to get to Mexico where he hid out last time. Surely a Swiss account. The same guys produced NIkita and it was SOP to have a lot of money hidden in case you needed to run.

[QUOTE=Merijeek]
They need to…

1 - Get the hell out of L.A.

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24: N.Y. starring Matt Dillon as John Brewer?
24: Miami starring Charlie Sheen as Jeb Bester?
24: SVU starring Kevin Bacon as Jonah Buchholtz?
24: L&O starring Emilio Estvez as James Baker?

[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]
Yep.

I would expect someone in his profession to have resources stashed about the area. Enough cash in various bus station lockers to get to Mexico where he hid out last time. Surely a Swiss account. The same guys produced NIkita and it was SOP to have a lot of money hidden in case you needed to run.
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Yeah, but Jack isn’t really a spy – he’s an overworked civil servant. Last time he disappeared, he was working in Southern California picking up day labor jobs. So he sure hadn’t squirreled away enough to manage a tropical hideaway. And it’s doubtful that he’s managed to put any away since in his careers as unskilled laborer and Chinese torture victim.

[QUOTE=Finagle]
Yeah, but Jack isn’t really a spy – he’s an overworked civil servant. Last time he disappeared, he was working in Southern California picking up day labor jobs. So he sure hadn’t squirreled away enough to manage a tropical hideaway. And it’s doubtful that he’s managed to put any away since in his careers as unskilled laborer and Chinese torture victim.
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He’s also a federal agent who is ALWAYS in the L.A. area who goes rogue three times a week.

He’s got to have stashes.

-Joe

[QUOTE=Finagle]
he was working in Southern California picking up day labor jobs.
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BUe he had his Jack Sack. Smoke grenades and disappearing cloaks don’t grow on tress, you know. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]
BUe he had his Jack Sack. Smoke grenades and disappearing cloaks don’t grow on tress, you know. :slight_smile:
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That’s the “Black Hoodie of Invisibility”, TYVM.

-Joe

[QUOTE=Merijeek]
He’s also a federal agent who is ALWAYS in the L.A. area who goes rogue three times a week.

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Speaking of going rogue, did anyone notice that this was at least the * third * helicopter that Jack has stolen? He stole (or hijacked) at least two last season. I didn’t really watch the first three seasons, so I don’t know if he added any more to his record.

Probably the most unintentionally funny line of the evening was Jack talking to Josh – “You don’t want to live with the pain of taking a life.” sez the guy who had gunned down, hung, and chewed to death probably 20 men in the last 24 hours without giving it a second thought.
I also noticed that most CTU agents who come in contact with Jack end up with mysterious head trauma at one point or another in their career, usually preceded by the sentence fragment, “I’m sorry, Jack, but I’ve got to…”.

[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]
BUe he had his Jack Sack. Smoke grenades and disappearing cloaks don’t grow on tress, you know. :slight_smile:
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Man, I can’t type worth s–t on that laptop.

[QUOTE=John Mace]
Did they get the circuit board?
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I think we’re left with the assumption that it blew up with Daddy Bauer and the oil station. Although it’s always possible that Jack took it from Daddy before he headed back for the chopper. I wouldn’t mind that – it would give Jack a bargaining chip in the future.

Yeah – I agree. The whole Ryan Chappelle ending was pretty good drama. Tough choices and sacrifices and all that. The episode where the nuke explodes in season 2 (ending of “Act 1”) was a great episode in all respects. And season 2 episode 8 had one of the best episode endings ever (after Jack telling Nina just what it was that he loved about Terry and therefore what Nina took away from him, quiet tense moment… the missile hitting the plane, a few seconds of chaos, then the clock. How perfect was that?!)

[QUOTE=Merijeek]
Except you’re forgetting the whole point of the airstrike was to destroy the circuit board. If there’s a helicopter LEAVING THE PLATFORM, the location of the circuit board might be a bit of a concern (again).
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This is why Bill and Jack should have been calling in the news to CTU the moment that they succeeded in apprehending Cheng and stopping Papa Bauer’s escape. But then… people seem to have lower IQs in the 24-verse.

Yep, and like I’ve said before, there’s clearly a big typo in the CTU training manual. Specifically in the glossary of definitions. But nooooo, Division never listens to me.

[QUOTE=Monstre]
This is why Bill and Jack should have been calling in the news to CTU the moment that they succeeded in apprehending Cheng and stopping Papa Bauer’s escape.
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Given that they were rogue, and that the VP is a moronic asshole with visions of grandeur, they may have expected the helicopter to be shot down if they made themselves known. Approaching the platform at a very low altitude is probably poetic license to be hidden from radar and satellite observation, despite the fact that a rubber boat shows up on the satellite picture earlier. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]
Approaching the platform at a very low altitude is probably poetic license to be hidden from radar and satellite observation, despite the fact that a rubber boat shows up on the satellite picture earlier. :slight_smile:
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Speaking of the rubber boat on the satellite picture, who else liked how it showed up on the image making its approach on the horizontal and vertical axes only? It’s like Chloe was playing Pac Man with a Zodiac.

[QUOTE=kidchameleon]
Wasn’t that when Jack offered her a deal at the apartment complex?
She went off to join the cast of The L-word after that…
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She’s an incredibly annoying nutjob on that show too.

[QUOTE=Monstre]
Speaking of the rubber boat on the satellite picture, who else liked how it showed up on the image making its approach on the horizontal and vertical axes only? It’s like Chloe was playing Pac Man with a Zodiac.
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Maybe it was just low-tech.

This in a universe where Chloe can tell the eye color and number of birthmarks of every single person currently in a skyscraper in Singapore, of course.

For a decommisioned oil rig, it certainly was well lit.

[QUOTE=Omniscient]
OK, I faded a bit and missed a few episodes in the run-up to the finale, but aside from SecDef Heller telling Jack to stay away from his daughter, was there anything that warranted Jack holding a gun on him? Talk about totally out of character. Plus, he did all that to just walk in and break up with her…seriously? That’s what they came up with for closure?
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I think Jack showed up at Heller’s fully intending to take Audrey with him. I think it was the conversation with Heller – especially Heller’s reminder of what happened to Terri (harsh words at the time, but still true) that made him reconsider, and realize that there was a lot of truth to what Heller said. Former SecDef was overly harsh back at the scene in CTU, and he said as much in this scene – but he was still largely right. Jack is who Jack is – and even if he wants to change and lead a normal, non-terrorist-killing life, he has a lot of demons from his past (including many enemies) waiting to catch up with him. And eventually, it would end up putting him in danger (and by extension, Audrey) again.

I think Jack changed his mind right there, deciding to let her go. And I think he still blames himself to some extend for Terri.

[QUOTE=riker1384]
I’m relatively new to this show. Jack Bauer seems to be pretty casual about hijacking cars, helicopters and other things at gunpoint, even when the people are basically his own people. Has anyone ever called him on this? Have they refused, has he killed them, or has he been prosecuted over it?
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Nope, the whole show hinges on the convention that whatever Jack wants to do is always the right thing to do, no matter how insane/illegal/screwy it appears.

Oh, sure, they’ll make a show of putting him in custody, letting the Chinese have him for a summer, whatever, but it doesn’t last.

I think they just dock his pay for every piece of equipment he destroys when not authorized to use it.
Kill sixteen terrorists and what do you get? 24 hours older and deeper in debt…

[QUOTE=StarvingButStrong]
I think they just dock his pay for every piece of equipment he destroys when not authorized to use it.
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And he hasn’t even been ON the CTU payroll since season 3.

This episode was like the season as a whole. Nonsensical plot, mostly silly and boring, a few high points.

In particular, I thought Jack’s confrontation with Heller was absolutely stunningly good. Probably the best 24 scene ever that did not involve actualy dying/hacksaws. Monstre is exactly right. Jack showed up, pissed as hell at Heller and totally on the edge, justifiably so, and Heller argued him out of it, and Heller was right, and Jack was furious and angry and knows he’s been treated like shit, but Heller was still right that Jack would not be able to really be there for Audrey. Keifer Sutherland really can act when the situation calls for it.

I also loved “that’s an issue for another day”, in regards to the Chinese. Another day. Another 24-hour period. Huh.

That said, the season as a whole was definitely the weakest of the series. The only other real high point for me was Jack’s showdown with Sayed, which was a masterfully shot little action scene. Oh, and I like Doyle quite a bit. As a character, at least. And of course, Jackula.
Low points of the season include:
-Everything felt like we’d already seen it
-Not nearly enough Chloe
-The preposterously incomprehensible motivation of the Russians, and the preposterous incomprehensibility of the existence of the “FC SubCircuit Board”
-The whole Daniels/Hayes/Lennox/Palmer storyline wasn’t awful, but was basically filler

I disagree entirely. Jack is miserable and knows it. He’s trying to protect his nephew from that. That line would mean a lot less coming from someone who didn’t know what it was like.