24: Season 6: Episodes 3-4 (8:00am - 10:00am)

Well, according to the episode guide on the Fox web site, the guy Jack bit only passed out from the pain. But I choose to believe that he is now among the ranks of the undead.

Anyone else suspect that Chloe’s totally got the hots for Jack? She cried! Real tears! She barely even cried when Edgar kicked the bucket. :eek:

So, thus far we’ve gotten Scary Bearded Jack, Vampire Jack, Road Rage Jack, Sobbing Jack and “DROP THE COFFEE!” all in the first 4 hours. I honestly don’t know how the show can live up to these standards for the next 20 episodes.

Don’t forget Car Thief Jack. I think he’s stolen 3 cars so far, in 4 episodes. Did I count right?

  1. Brick through the window of the shabby clunker with the nice cell phone and GPS.

  2. Nice car that Jack and Assad grabbed from outside the U-Haul house. This is the one that Assad was driving while “witnessing” the Road Rage incident.

  3. The car that Jack grabbed to perform the aforementioned crash. He abandoned this one when Curtis picked him up.

So… how many more cars will Jack stea… erm… “commandeer” today?

I am pissed about Curtis. I always liked him, and even though I had a feeling his number was up (“guest starring Roger Cross”), I think he could have been given a more fitting demise. I imagine the writers were all sitting around trying to come up with the next big “shock” scene and someone said, “Hey, what if Jack killed Curtis!” Then they had to come up with some outlandish scenario to justify the scene. Thus we get all the “Dr. Bashir killed his buddies in the Gulf War and now he must have vengeance” business. Talk about going against everything we’ve seen about Curtis’ character in the last three seasons! Since when was he the hothead type who would jeopardize the security of the country because of a personal vendetta? Well, since the writers needed an excuse for Jack to kill him, obviously.

And did Jack really have to shoot him in the neck? Why not the arm or leg?

There was a lot of cool stuff in these four episodes, but the writers’ tendency to put shock scenes over good storytelling doesn’t bode well.

Taking no chances. In real life, if you want to stop a guy, you shoot to kill.

If only Jack had been in McDonald’s the day Stella Liebeck bought that infamous cup of joe…

I’m guessing that Six Flags Magic Mountain has now become far less popular to visit with all the fallout and such.

Good thing the nuke went off in the middle of one of the largest cities in Los Angeles County.

Omigosh! You’re right!

Any dopers out there in Valencia? Are you all right?

The safest place to be in any nuclear attack is always an amusement park. Those rides are built to last!

Jack throws a dude on the ground: “don’t get up”.

Brilliance!

What’s with the strike team killing the witness/suspect on each strike? I mean, what part of “Do not terminate. We need him alive.” do they not understand? I was really expecting Jack to take advantage of Ahmed’s leg wound for torture techniques 101.

I told my daughter as soon as BB said the strike team was mobilized to the Fayed site while Jack was cleaning up in suburbia that things would not go well. Jack’s not there.

And what ever happened to the governmental mantra of “We don’t negotiate with terrorists.”? I mean the guy already doublecrossed us once. Giving them what they ask for just makes the US a target for every 2 bit outfit with a good threat up their sleeves.
Sorry, I know this is 24verse, but haven’t the other presidents been stronger in saying “Screw you” ?

I’d say it went out the window during the first Palmer administration.
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I mean the guy already doublecrossed us once. Giving them what they ask for just makes the US a target for every 2 bit outfit with a good threat up their sleeves./QUOTE]
And so it has, which is why America in the 24verse really ought to be semi-fascist.

By the way, I was glad the kid’s mom called the police. It seems we have at least one ‘dimwitted civilian has a loved one taken hostage’ plot every year. They’re always told not to go to the police, and they listen and it either turns into a disaster and they die, or they get rescued miraculously by Jack. Good for DimWit Mom - she thought ‘Gee, maybe my shlumpy husband isn’t our best hope for fightining off this season’s Terrorist Next Door. Perhaps the government some kind of experience dealing with this, as we seem to have terrorist attacks on a semiannual basis. There might even be some kind of anti-terrorism force, with a guy on it who has the same initials as James Bond but is way more hardass. Perchance I should give them a call.’

Oh yeah? What was that Jack spat out, anchovies?

Hey, I didn’t say I bought it. Just reporting what the episode guide claimed!

Given how much Jack stresses that they need to take the handler and Ahmed alive, you’d think they might have brought along at least one non-lethal weapon. Is there really no space in the CTU arsenal for a couple of concussion grenades?

Nice work with the kid there, ACKmed.

I am going to shoot and kill you… eventually. Ok, time to shoot you now, walk over here a little. Turn around. Kneel down. Scootch a little to the left for me. No that’s too far. A little right. Ok tilt your head back a little and lean just a tad away from me. Now I just need to raise the gun and begin moving my finger to the vicinity of the trigg… OH CRAP AGENTS!

Man, I’m in mourning. I agree that it was totally out of character for Black Bauer to let a personal vendetta take over like that. 15 minutes earlier I remember screaming at the TV “You’re better than that, Curtis!” when it was obvious that he was going to do something. However, he only got shot in the neck, so maybe he’s not dead (ie Tony).

I’m sick of the people always doing what the terrorists want. They had about 5 million opportunities to take Kumar’s gun away. The mom was like three inches from the gun and Kumar is closing his eyes wincing in pain and looking away, and dad was standing right there. Plenty of chances to push the gun aside and use a nearby blunt object.

Observations:

  1. Presidents should never take phone calls from bad guys. Nothing good can come of it. Once he takes the call, the bad guy says “Do X or I’ll do Y.” Then the prez has no choice but to comply. Was the president thinking the guy was calling to turn himself in?
  2. CTU and the LAPD suck at perimeters. Any time the bad guy is in a known location and they set up a perimieter, it’s an absolute certainty that the bad guy will be able to just walk right out and disappear. CTU and the LAPD couldn’t keep me from getting off my couch.
  3. Bad guys are all anal retentive about getting things in writing, and the same government that is willing to torture, kill innocent people, and violate pretty much every law in the universe to get the job done, will not even consider providing a fake pardon or just saying “nevermind, no deal,” after the bad guy gives up the information.
  4. After watching years of 24, even a nuke in LA isn’t the stunning development that the show was going for. I mean, c’mon. We’ve seen everything on 24 already, even a nuke explosion, so it’s really hard to shock viewers anymore. I knew something really big was coming, figured it was a nuke, and when it happened, I said “Hmmm, okay. Interesting.”

So, when releasing Bad Guys Due To Blackmail:

Replace bad guys with marines, seals or CTU agents in orange jumpsuits with a little bitty .25 auto stuck in their underwear, like The Unit.

or

Shoot 'em all (OK, dang it, put 'em in solitary) and say, “Gosh, sorry there seems to have been a prison riot and they all escaped. No idea where they are.”

or

Implant them with a chunk of radioactive material, or a homing device, or a bomb.

or

Just put a tracking device or bomb on the airplane. Note to self: give pilot parachute.

No need. We got this thing called an “Air Force” who’ve got lotsa planes and lotsa missiles.

Woo hoo! Live practice time!