25 and never been in a relationship

Nitpick: Prostituton is totally ILlegal here in Thailand. But it might as well BE legal. Pretty much out in the open.

I still don’t understand how a thread about someone with low self-esteem and problems talking to women could possibly devolve into a thread about where to procure a prostitute. He didn’t say he’s terrified of sex or walking around, heh, pedestaling pussy, he just can’t seem to feel close enough to these girls to want to do it. I’ve felt that way before, and it had everything to do with my self confidence. Once I figured that out, and realized that even I had stuff to be confident about, I was golden.

Doesn’t happen overnight though. In the meantime, you should meet confidence’s unruly nephew, cockiness. Cockiness will help a lot, until you can develop the confidence. Just, not too cocky… That’s where it gets a little bit harder…

Trust me. The girls here can make him feel close to them. They are experts unrivaled in their field.

Based on your other thread, it’s probably not the best time to visit Thailand either.

Ha, no, not good enough for me. I would be seriously grossed out if my boyfriend lost his virginity to some hooker or random gross barfly. Sorry if I’m being prejudiced. I tend to like innocent, virginal-seeming nerdy boys anyway :slight_smile:

Of course, other girls might be different, but I have a friend who was in that position (her boyfriend lost his virginity to a hooker). She was pretty disturbed by it too. Basically, I think that as someone who already feels isolated from society, the OP should lose his virginity in a normal, socially-accepted way. Not that he’s too worried about it, anyway.

Well, if push came to shove, would you prefer a hooker or a sheep?

I don’t know…can sheep pass on genital warts and herpes to their partners?? That really does up the ante.

So it’s true. Guys read Playboy and girls read Webster’s.

"Oh… ohh God… ohhh YESSSSESQUIPEDALIANISM!!!

Good point.
I’d wager it would be easier to find someone who would like to date a virgin than someone who wants secondhand exposure to all the diseases a hooker might be carrying. Ew.

I doubt you’re more likely to catch an STD from an escort (escort…escort…ESCORT) than you are from a random twentysomething woman in the population at large. In fact I would guess you are less likely.

Be safe, right? But what is this, health class? You should know that stuff already.

What’s your reasoning for this?

You know, paying for it isn’t the only option. Might work for you, but 99% of the fun is lost…

You’re advice isn’t going to help him either. “Be yourself” is utter bullshit advice to give someone. It’s worthless. If “himself” is a guy who can’t make a move on a girl, then “being himself” isn’t going to help him make a move on a girl. He needs to be someone other than himself. Sometimes, believe it or not, people need to change in order to accomplish things.

In Australia anyway, the professionals always insist on protection, are regularly tested and will refuse service if they believe their client isn’t completely clean.

Incidentally it’s legal here.

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“Be yourself” is right up there with “it will happen when you least expect it” and “you’ll meet a nice girl, it isn’t a big deal” with some of the best intended but most worthless platitudes people offer in this situation.

Dating is a game and you need to learn how to play to some degree. And before anyone jumps on the whole idea of a “game”, I’m not talking about playas and hos. There’s techniques to getting women interested in a guy, and those who claim there isn’t either don’t realise it or don’t want to admit it. Not all techniques apply to all people, but there’s obviously a strategy involved either consciously or subconsciously.

You’re a jackass. You’re post is my cite.

He is a confused dude. He has no idea what the hell he wants, how is he supposed to get it. He needs to go out and figure out exactly what he’s looking for, then go after it. It’s worthless to be yourself, to be cool with who you are? Please.

And you want him to go be a fucking trick. For me, and maybe this is just me, but I would never in a million years pay for it. There are plenty of ugly/fat/broke dudes out there that can pull a female simply by knowing exactly what they want and not being too scared to go for it. Women respect that. No one respects a trick.

He can follow your lead if he pleases, but I don’t think that it is going to help him feel anything but worse. Quite a few females have weighed in saying just about the same thing. Should tell you something kiddo.

And the idea of “techniques” and learning how to talk to a woman by reading a book is ridiculous, and demeaning, IMHO. They are people. You can just, you know, talk to them like you would a person. I know that’s pretty outlandish, but, believe me, the science is sound.

Don’t insult other posters in this forum.

Gotcha

I’ll be honest. I don’t think a relationship (or lack thereof) is your problem. To me it sounds like good old fashioned depression. I’m not a psychologist, but I’ve been there. Lack of motivation, feelings of interpersonal disconnect, not wanting to get up in the morning, these are all red flags. You’re blaming your mood on women, but that’s just the most convenient thing to get hung up on at the moment. If you could wave a magic wand and get a relationship tomorrow, I’m positive that you’d find something else to worry about.

I’d seek out a shrink and inquire about medication, if you’re eligible. There’s no shame in being a little sick in the noggin. Hell, this is the SDMB, you’re in good company. Depression can be fixed with the right counseling and/or meds.

On the relationship front, I’m right there with ya. My situation is a little bit different, though. I’m extremely physically disabled which makes dating nigh impossible. Look on the bright side, at least you’re in the potential gene pool. Once you get your mood sorted out it won’t matter so much, which will make you more attractive to around. And hell, even if you die a virgin, so what? It’s sex. You can still jerk off. You can breathe. You can eat. You have shelter and a job. In the grand scheme of things, sex is small potatoes.

There may be some issues here in terms of anxiety disorders…